▲ 277 ▼ GeoGuessr's Steam Release Hit With Overwhelmingly Negative Reviews For "Completely Pointless" Monetization (www.thegamer.com) submitted 1 year ago by Fallstar@mander.xyz to c/games@sh.itjust.works 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments Welp
[+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don’t think its a horrible idea but maybe have an option for purchase, ads, or crypto. that's what I'm thinking, but additionally having a option to directly 'sell' your computing power should also be an option But yeah people are going to hate you for this comment 🤣 actually though. I haven't been on Lemmy for too long but this might be the most downvotes ive gotten on a comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Congratulations. It happens. I didn't think it was too bad an idea. What if steam ran the miner to produce steam bux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) That would be a huge waste of ressources. We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources and should not start wasting ressources on mining "steam bux". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sure, but we're not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are correct - but we totally have ways of monetization that don't require you to burn a lot of energy. Like normal money for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources crypto mining doesn't need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that's on them for not using solar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 point 1 year ago Opportunity costs still exist permalink fedilink source parent [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid. Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don’t think its a horrible idea but maybe have an option for purchase, ads, or crypto. that's what I'm thinking, but additionally having a option to directly 'sell' your computing power should also be an option But yeah people are going to hate you for this comment 🤣 actually though. I haven't been on Lemmy for too long but this might be the most downvotes ive gotten on a comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Congratulations. It happens. I didn't think it was too bad an idea. What if steam ran the miner to produce steam bux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) That would be a huge waste of ressources. We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources and should not start wasting ressources on mining "steam bux". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sure, but we're not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are correct - but we totally have ways of monetization that don't require you to burn a lot of energy. Like normal money for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources crypto mining doesn't need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that's on them for not using solar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 point 1 year ago Opportunity costs still exist permalink fedilink source parent [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid. Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Congratulations. It happens. I didn't think it was too bad an idea. What if steam ran the miner to produce steam bux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) That would be a huge waste of ressources. We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources and should not start wasting ressources on mining "steam bux". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sure, but we're not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are correct - but we totally have ways of monetization that don't require you to burn a lot of energy. Like normal money for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources crypto mining doesn't need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that's on them for not using solar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 point 1 year ago Opportunity costs still exist permalink fedilink source parent [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid. Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) That would be a huge waste of ressources. We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources and should not start wasting ressources on mining "steam bux". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sure, but we're not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are correct - but we totally have ways of monetization that don't require you to burn a lot of energy. Like normal money for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources crypto mining doesn't need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that's on them for not using solar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 point 1 year ago Opportunity costs still exist permalink fedilink source parent [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid. Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sure, but we're not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are correct - but we totally have ways of monetization that don't require you to burn a lot of energy. Like normal money for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are correct - but we totally have ways of monetization that don't require you to burn a lot of energy. Like normal money for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources crypto mining doesn't need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that's on them for not using solar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 point 1 year ago Opportunity costs still exist permalink fedilink source parent [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid. Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they're creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn't entirely green. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I meant "the steam client". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 point 1 year ago Opportunity costs still exist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid. Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn. As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago More that it isn't relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you're still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost. And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Now you're just being rude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago Given the comment I'm responding to, I felt it was appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've reread this several times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say. permalink fedilink source parent