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Microsoft secured my files! (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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Back in January Microsoft encrypted all my hard drives without saying anything. I was playing around with a dual boot yesterday and somehow aggravated Secureboot. So my C: panicked and required a 40 character key to unlock.

Your key is backed up to the Microsoft account associated with your install. Which is considerate to the hackers. (and saved me from a re-install) But if you've got an unactivated copy, local account, or don't know your M$ account credentials, your boned.

Control Panel > System Security > Bitlocker Encryption.

BTW, I was aware that M$ was doing this and even made fun of the effected users. Karma.

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[–] 97 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

When the public rejected this idea

THIS is their response. They are still insisting on total control of our computers.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    I don't know about that.

    Dumb terminal concept was more what Chromebook was doing.

    Microsoft is doing something even stupider.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Dumb terminal concept was more what Chromebook was doing.

    I mean, for a lot of people they're fine especially if they're priced appropriately. Especially with a lot more software as a service out there. My problem is that all of them have a built in drop dead date on when they're going to stop getting updates and there's not really a great option for the devices post ChromeOS.

    ChromeOS certainly can be a good system. I still have my old CR-48 from when I got selected to test the OS and even when it was in its infancy, it was solid. I used it for a lot of my college career because it was better than my Asus eeePC which had Ubuntu on it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I had an Intel Chromebox that I ran galliumOS on. The problem is locked bootloaders which should be illegal

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If my Chromebook could run Linux or even pure Android, I'd probably use it way more often. But it being a locked down distro with android bolted on is useless to me.

    • I can't really do anything major on it that I can on a cheap laptop
    • I can't really use it for the same games or programs on Android, as the form factor really gets in the way, even in tablet mode.

    It feels like the worst of both worlds. It's fine for people who use a laptop/OS as a bootloader to a web browser, its not fine for weirdos like me.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Funny thing is that a cheap netbook has stats that would be fine for anything we did in the 90's maybe even some games too

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Chromebook I have, is overall fine. It runs ChromeOS pretty well, and most web pages don't make me beg for more RAM or CPU. ChromeOS does a fine job, to the point I wonder if I ran Arch or something on it, it's a crapshoot.

    I think most laptops these days, even the cheap ones, are probably fine when you run a light OS on em. I've used computers that were 10 years old and ran most things decently well.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've got an entry level desktop from 2009 I'm gonna throw arch on and run some stuff

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You could always put Linux on it. I believe there is a way to do that for most ChromeBooks nowadays.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have never bought a device I could not own completely and flash the rom with what I want. Except once I had iPhone 3 but it was easily jail broken, but I still feel dirty. How can someone think they own and control something I bought? There is something fundamentally wrong with that and I agree it should be illegal

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think they want you to only use Windows and pay for cloud storage.

    By enforcing BitLocker and Secure Boot, they are trying to eliminate dual-booting (you don't need to dual-boot Windows/Linux anyway, as you can just use WSL2 /s).

    By enforcing disk encryption, in general, they try to force the use of cloud storage, by making data recovery nearly impossible. Most people are probably too lazy to buy external storage, and manually copy their files over.

    This guarantees 2 money streams. One from Windows's tracking/advertising and the other from OneDrive subscriptions.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Data recovery isn't impossible. You can easily back up the recovery key. This is just typical Microsoft shit design.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-your-bitlocker-recovery-key-e63607b4-77fb-4ad3-8022-d6dc428fbd0d

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not to mention DRM. They want to own your computer and prevent any kind of modification so that movie producers give them money.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Movie producers?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, shit like HDCP is pushed by the film and TV industry.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not really. Your problem in us is the lobbying lawyers. It's a political systematic problem. The demonic corp entities that crave endless growth will never not do anything that could potentially suck any data from or control a customer. The ones that get "money" for things like this are your law makers. The Republican authoritarian faschists are the winners, along with billionaires that can afford to buy laws. No movie producer. No one in any business except exploitation on the mass scale can profit from these moves. In some countries it is illegal. In the us it is business

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    No idea how you say all that but can't put together which industry specifically benefits from HDCP.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So not movie producers. You just mentioned them as another category being fucked? Because that's what they are

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good thing PCs aren't locked into Windows.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    yet

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Good luck locking loose mainboards sold for the DIY market, which don't come with anything installed by default, to a given OS, the only way that could maybe work is forcing the OS in ROM.

    Another way would be to discontinue the socketed desktop form factors and replace them all with mini PCs that are as locked down as the current Macs.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Thinking for two seconds:

    MS pays Google to start enforcing some device verification thing so you can only view a good chunk of the Internet if you pass verification? (Assumes Google goes even harder making the web Chrome-focused)

    Ooh Cloudflare could be invited to the party here too. Constant CAPTCHAs if you’re not on an MS AUTHENTI-PC! device. (Think Private Access Token)

    …fill in the gaps friends πŸ˜‰ you know MS has already debated all your β€œsuggestions” anyway

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Google already does precisely that with their "open source" mobile OS. People underestimate how easily these guys can ruin stuff

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    :( tell me more?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    First off, Google has made agressive deals with phone manufacturers to ship spyware with their phones by default, and some of the stuff can only get taken out by rooting/jailbreaking the phone. By doing so, they acquired nearly 100% of the app store market share, and then used it to make "useful features" such as integrity checks that are tied to the Play Services app (which is an always on spyware background app).
    The end result is, even if you manage to root your phone and install a custom ROM (which is not always available to every model), a bunch of apps will refuse to work properly because you fail the Google Play fingerprinting steps and are assumed to be a security vulnerability. If I'm not mistaken there's also some shady stuff with certificates, too

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    So you're suggesting MS will somehow block non-Windows OSes from installing, even on hardware like loose mainboards for building your own PC with, or even on barebones mini PC kits or certain laptop SKUs, which don't ship with an OS installed to begin with and expect the user to install it themselves? I mean, unless something extreme happens like changing the entire PC platform to be like the current Macs, that won't be feasible.

    Also, doing that would kill the Steam Deck which I doubt Valve would take sitting down.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    SecureBoot pretty much does this. There is nothing preventing motherboard manufacturers from blocking adding non-MS keys if they wanted to.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Ah no

    so you can only view a good chunk of the Internet if you pass verification

    /

    Constant CAPTCHAs

    Get Google & Cloudflare to make the internet suck if you didn’t pay Microsoft[β€˜s vendors] β€œenough” for hardware

    Just sounds great doesn’t it?!

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