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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Yeah, shit like HDCP is pushed by the film and TV industry.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Not really. Your problem in us is the lobbying lawyers. It's a political systematic problem. The demonic corp entities that crave endless growth will never not do anything that could potentially suck any data from or control a customer. The ones that get "money" for things like this are your law makers. The Republican authoritarian faschists are the winners, along with billionaires that can afford to buy laws. No movie producer. No one in any business except exploitation on the mass scale can profit from these moves. In some countries it is illegal. In the us it is business

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

No idea how you say all that but can't put together which industry specifically benefits from HDCP.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

So not movie producers. You just mentioned them as another category being fucked? Because that's what they are

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

The film industry benefits from HDCP and all DRM, they aren't being fucked. I've looked back over the conversation, I think you have it flipped in your head.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

No. The movie producers get none of the profits of a movie. Much like game devs don't get the profits of their games. The venture capital and wealthy owners, as previously discussed get the profit. You know this. You know what error you made. Stop slinking around so we can correct the facts

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

You absolute goober, you said the law makers get the money and now have the audacity to say "You know what error you made. Stop slinking around so we can correct the facts"? I can't with this. Thanks for entertaining me this morning.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

No. You said movie producers. You can correct it for everyone. It is not wrong that the lobbyists and lawmakers along with the oligarchs get the brunt of the profit. You want to challenge that??? That it goes to a dude that makes fx for marvel 7 or to be honest a fucking script writer or cameraman???

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

You made a comparison to gaming and said the devs don't make the money. Who do you think makes the money in gaming? The producers. Why do you think the profits of film making go to law makers instead of the production company bank rolling the movie?

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

In all these fields, the investor (owner) pays salaries to producers then owns the ip and product. Sorry. I just assumed you knew this. They get nothing and will not lobby anything for drm. Overwhelmingly artists and creators and producers, writers, everyone involved in making your media is day workers just like you and me.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

I think the disconnect here is that you're using the term producer differently from the way most people do. You're viewing a "producer" as a normal worker (like you and me). Back to the gaming comparison, the "developer" and "producer" of a game refer to companies. Go to a game's Steam page. There is a section for each of those. The term is the same for the individuals working there, so it can be confusing. When people say "game developers push for DRM" they don't mean the individual developers working there, they mean the company, and of course the owners (investors) control the company.

No need to be condescending and say things like "sorry, I just assumed you know this."

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago

But it's not condescending? You are mistaken. The publicised studio on steam, the "developer" is a studio. They are owned by a company that takes all the money. The publisher is sometimes the in house or out sourced company that markets the game. This is also owned by a company. The owners, often multi national giant corporations, lobby for drm and none of the terms you use are applicable for these. They are, in games and all media called "investors" of different types. They have separated it like this because they want all the money and can hire the talent. At no point do any creative worker engage in lobbying for drm, because it is not in their interests and I suspect wouldn't be since it requires a full on sociopath to do so.