▲ 687 ▼ Airbnb will now show users the total cost of their stay right away (news.airbnb.com) submitted 1 year ago by Tea@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world 131 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children) Any alternatives? Especially European? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago* (4 children) hotels/hostels? Airbnb turns potential living space into hotel space and thereby helps driving up housing prices. The whole concept is inherently problematic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (4 children) Not quite hotel space as I have yet to find a hotel that can accommodate several families traveling together with a shared space, including a fully stocked kitchen, washer and dryer, parking, etc. There's definitely a demand for something like this that isn't filled in any other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago In Germany it's called "Ferienwohnung" where you can rent a whole house if you need it. This is going for decades before AirBNB, I'm sure there's something comparable in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago Appartment hotels maybe? permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Just rent a villa, they offer those in a lot of places permalink fedilink source parent [–] sykaster@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago There's group accommodations all over Europe, we use them frequently with my family permalink fedilink source parent [–] acchariya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If you are looking for a permanent place somewhere in Europe, it's very difficult to quickly find monthly or weekly rentals with the appropriate monthly or weekly discount you will find on Airbnb. I don't discount it's négatives, but with the paperwork burden to find a medium or long term place in many areas in Europe Airbnb does the best job of cutting through all of that and getting you a place now permalink fedilink source parent [–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Great point. Hostels seem very fun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Without airbnb more hotels would be built instead of apartment buildings. The tourists will get a place to sleep eventually, you just have to decide whether it's in an apartment or a hotel. That will determine future construction projects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can't just build a hotel in a residential area, that usually goes against zoning laws which Airbnb circumvents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, that's why we should have mixed use zoning. I stayed in a hotel in a residential area in Seoul, it was great. There's convenience stores everywhere and little restaurants and cafes next to residential houses permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) hotels are controlled by laws and zoning, airbnb gets around that and turns planned living space into hotel space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is not a good thing, zoning laws often lead to higher rents because they constrain construction. They also lead to having to drive everywhere because your house is too far from anything that's not another house permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago This varies from place to place. This is handled really badly in some places and much better in others. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cotlovan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Booking.com they also have private hosts on their platform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sighpolice@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Never book flights through booking.com, they use a third party company called GoToGate who have the worst customer service possible and do not refund, and only try to charge for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago They tried to not refund my whole flight so I talked to customer support which refused so I charged back with my credit card and they reversed the original refund and gave me the whole refund Never book with that site or any of its affiliates permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago HomeExchange looks good and is European. It naturally lacks the depth of listings that Airbnb does but will grow if people use them permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) VRBO. Idk if it's European. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SamHoppers@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It’s American. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago And it does all the same bullshit airbnb does. Even if they have different policies (spoiler: they're the same) they cause the same problems related to using homes as profit machines for assholes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago* (4 children) hotels/hostels? Airbnb turns potential living space into hotel space and thereby helps driving up housing prices. The whole concept is inherently problematic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (4 children) Not quite hotel space as I have yet to find a hotel that can accommodate several families traveling together with a shared space, including a fully stocked kitchen, washer and dryer, parking, etc. There's definitely a demand for something like this that isn't filled in any other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago In Germany it's called "Ferienwohnung" where you can rent a whole house if you need it. This is going for decades before AirBNB, I'm sure there's something comparable in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago Appartment hotels maybe? permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Just rent a villa, they offer those in a lot of places permalink fedilink source parent [–] sykaster@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago There's group accommodations all over Europe, we use them frequently with my family permalink fedilink source parent [–] acchariya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If you are looking for a permanent place somewhere in Europe, it's very difficult to quickly find monthly or weekly rentals with the appropriate monthly or weekly discount you will find on Airbnb. I don't discount it's négatives, but with the paperwork burden to find a medium or long term place in many areas in Europe Airbnb does the best job of cutting through all of that and getting you a place now permalink fedilink source parent [–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Great point. Hostels seem very fun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Without airbnb more hotels would be built instead of apartment buildings. The tourists will get a place to sleep eventually, you just have to decide whether it's in an apartment or a hotel. That will determine future construction projects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can't just build a hotel in a residential area, that usually goes against zoning laws which Airbnb circumvents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, that's why we should have mixed use zoning. I stayed in a hotel in a residential area in Seoul, it was great. There's convenience stores everywhere and little restaurants and cafes next to residential houses permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) hotels are controlled by laws and zoning, airbnb gets around that and turns planned living space into hotel space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is not a good thing, zoning laws often lead to higher rents because they constrain construction. They also lead to having to drive everywhere because your house is too far from anything that's not another house permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago This varies from place to place. This is handled really badly in some places and much better in others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (4 children) Not quite hotel space as I have yet to find a hotel that can accommodate several families traveling together with a shared space, including a fully stocked kitchen, washer and dryer, parking, etc. There's definitely a demand for something like this that isn't filled in any other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago In Germany it's called "Ferienwohnung" where you can rent a whole house if you need it. This is going for decades before AirBNB, I'm sure there's something comparable in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago Appartment hotels maybe? permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Just rent a villa, they offer those in a lot of places permalink fedilink source parent [–] sykaster@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago There's group accommodations all over Europe, we use them frequently with my family permalink fedilink source parent
[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago In Germany it's called "Ferienwohnung" where you can rent a whole house if you need it. This is going for decades before AirBNB, I'm sure there's something comparable in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago Appartment hotels maybe? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Just rent a villa, they offer those in a lot of places permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sykaster@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago There's group accommodations all over Europe, we use them frequently with my family permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago If you are looking for a permanent place somewhere in Europe, it's very difficult to quickly find monthly or weekly rentals with the appropriate monthly or weekly discount you will find on Airbnb. I don't discount it's négatives, but with the paperwork burden to find a medium or long term place in many areas in Europe Airbnb does the best job of cutting through all of that and getting you a place now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Great point. Hostels seem very fun. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Without airbnb more hotels would be built instead of apartment buildings. The tourists will get a place to sleep eventually, you just have to decide whether it's in an apartment or a hotel. That will determine future construction projects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can't just build a hotel in a residential area, that usually goes against zoning laws which Airbnb circumvents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, that's why we should have mixed use zoning. I stayed in a hotel in a residential area in Seoul, it was great. There's convenience stores everywhere and little restaurants and cafes next to residential houses permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) hotels are controlled by laws and zoning, airbnb gets around that and turns planned living space into hotel space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is not a good thing, zoning laws often lead to higher rents because they constrain construction. They also lead to having to drive everywhere because your house is too far from anything that's not another house permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago This varies from place to place. This is handled really badly in some places and much better in others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can't just build a hotel in a residential area, that usually goes against zoning laws which Airbnb circumvents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, that's why we should have mixed use zoning. I stayed in a hotel in a residential area in Seoul, it was great. There's convenience stores everywhere and little restaurants and cafes next to residential houses permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, that's why we should have mixed use zoning. I stayed in a hotel in a residential area in Seoul, it was great. There's convenience stores everywhere and little restaurants and cafes next to residential houses permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) hotels are controlled by laws and zoning, airbnb gets around that and turns planned living space into hotel space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is not a good thing, zoning laws often lead to higher rents because they constrain construction. They also lead to having to drive everywhere because your house is too far from anything that's not another house permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago This varies from place to place. This is handled really badly in some places and much better in others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is not a good thing, zoning laws often lead to higher rents because they constrain construction. They also lead to having to drive everywhere because your house is too far from anything that's not another house permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago This varies from place to place. This is handled really badly in some places and much better in others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago This varies from place to place. This is handled really badly in some places and much better in others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cotlovan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Booking.com they also have private hosts on their platform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sighpolice@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Never book flights through booking.com, they use a third party company called GoToGate who have the worst customer service possible and do not refund, and only try to charge for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago They tried to not refund my whole flight so I talked to customer support which refused so I charged back with my credit card and they reversed the original refund and gave me the whole refund Never book with that site or any of its affiliates permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sighpolice@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Never book flights through booking.com, they use a third party company called GoToGate who have the worst customer service possible and do not refund, and only try to charge for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago They tried to not refund my whole flight so I talked to customer support which refused so I charged back with my credit card and they reversed the original refund and gave me the whole refund Never book with that site or any of its affiliates permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago They tried to not refund my whole flight so I talked to customer support which refused so I charged back with my credit card and they reversed the original refund and gave me the whole refund Never book with that site or any of its affiliates permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago HomeExchange looks good and is European. It naturally lacks the depth of listings that Airbnb does but will grow if people use them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) VRBO. Idk if it's European. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SamHoppers@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It’s American. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago And it does all the same bullshit airbnb does. Even if they have different policies (spoiler: they're the same) they cause the same problems related to using homes as profit machines for assholes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SamHoppers@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It’s American. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago And it does all the same bullshit airbnb does. Even if they have different policies (spoiler: they're the same) they cause the same problems related to using homes as profit machines for assholes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago And it does all the same bullshit airbnb does. Even if they have different policies (spoiler: they're the same) they cause the same problems related to using homes as profit machines for assholes. permalink fedilink source parent