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[–] 131 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I read that airbnb lead to rents rise, because it made it so easy for landlords to run their property like hotels. I don't use them, and kind of think lowly of people that are like "well it's convenient so i don't care".

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This. They help destroy housing markets.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    while hotels and motels run at low capacity utilization

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I only use it when I travel in large groups. At which point it's really really nice. It's private. It's quiet. It's cheap (per person). It's more social. We usually also save money on food by buying in bulk and cooking.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Living next to a few short-term rentals, it is so extremely creepy to have various large groups of people in and out, staring at you and your stuff, blocking the street with Ubers and scooters, and you only think it's quiet because you're the house making all the noise.

    It sucks to make a neighborhood a nice place to live only to have all that leeched for profit selling to bachelorette parties full of girls going WOOO at 1 AM.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago*

    I live in a neighborhood that regularly (as in, at least once, often more times a week) has people blasting concert grade speakers until like 4 in the morning, with revving cars, fireworks, gunshots, etc etc.

    and thats from people who live there. no airbnbs.

    Shitty people are shitty people. at least with an airbnb you have a chance at a break in the neighbors being dickheads.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    As usual, a few jerks ruin it for the rest of us.

    I've stayed at a number of airbnbs and we're very respectful of our neighbors. We basically treat the place as if we lived there, because that's what we're looking for.

    Hotels suck:

    • no kitchen, just a microwave if you're lucky
    • expensive for a small space
    • housekeeping - I don't want strangers looking through my stuff
    • target for crime - cars get broken into a lot at hotels and motels
    • annoying check-in process, always seem to need to ask the desk people for something, etc

    I just don't like hotels. Maybe zoning could limit airbnbs to townhouse/condo communities or something that are all rentals, but give me more options than a stupid hotel.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    While Air B&B has done irreperable harm to the housing market, I'm not 100% convinced it should be banned. I propose if a house operates as an enterprise, it be taxed according to commercial rates, not residential. It would go a long way to resolving the inequities.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    Yep instead of lowering rent because your unit is unaffordable you just buy up and rent them all out creating housing scarcity and prices will increase right up until the point ppl can't afford to vacation anymore... Which is pretty much now anyway. Queue up all the BS stories. "Millennials/zoomers don't 'want' to vacation anymore"

    The Snake is going to eat it's tail.

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    [–] 99 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    DUMP AirBnB right away. They are kissing Trumps ass all the way. The CEO is very... very proud to be part of DOGE. Fuck them.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Gross. I didn't know that. I do occasionally use AirBnB. I'm aware of their impact on the rental market, so I favor hotels most of the time. But there have been a few occasions in recent years where I was traveling in a larger group and an AirBnB made more sense. But no more of that.

    I looked in to this a little, and Joe Gebbia is no longer the CEO, but he is still on the board. Still a good enough reason to boycott.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    This 100%.
    AirBnB used to be cheaper than a hotel. Then it got so easy to tack on fees and ridiculous requirements that you're basically paying more than a hotel to housekeep your own room. Mix in lots of shady hosts and most of the time I'd rather just stay at the Hilton for the same price.

    It can still be useful as a novelty, like book a party house somewhere or as easily cheaper way to house an awful lot of people. But for the most part, I'll pass.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    5 years too late, hotels have been cheaper and better for a while now. All of these companies that touted revolutionizing industries have just become worse versions.

    Netflix, airbnb, uber, etc all of them are worse for people than the things they replaced

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Richard Wolf had a very good take on all of these Silicon Valley "disruptors". It's basically been the neoliberal US american MO for the past quarter century:

    Step 1: get a bunch VC money by promising the moon

    Step 2: "disrupt" by undercutting the established moon due to lack of regulation. Even though it's an inferior product, it's VC subsidised, so it's cheaper than the established businesses.

    Step 3: due to lack of regulation, your business drives established operators to bankruptcy. This is basically dumping but the regulation hasn't caught up.

    Step 4: become the monopoly and suck as much money as possible from your customers to generate "shareholder value"

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    American business practices summed up for pretty much my entire lifetime right here. No wonder we live in such a shit hole - society as a whole has mortgaged and undercut for an entire generation.

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I share a lot of of the criticism towards AirBnB. However, I've often ended up using them either way. We travel with a dog and a toddler. They need to be allowed in the first place. And ideally we get a kitchen, a separate room so we can still have normal noise and light when the kid sleeps. Often we even find Airbnbs with toys, kids books, dog beds, treats on the table when we arrive, ...

    You simply don't get that in hotels. At least not in a price range I've considered so far

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    i don't think people need to justify Airbnb's, it's a great alternative to a hotel for many reasons including those you listed. What needs to be addressed is the damage the shareholders who are running the company are doing to society. let's not give them too much credit about this choice: they are still sucking up homes from homeowners and removing money from the middle class. they only made this change because someone realized it will make them more money.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Their footnote section is doing a lot of work.

    1 In some countries and regions taxes are included in the total price displayed. The total price including taxes is always displayed prior to checkout.

    They also either don't know how notations work, or the AI they're using to generate this doesn't because it has a separate footnote with that same sentence later on.

    I would be thoroughly unsurprised if some EU or other regulation came into effect so that they have to do this, and now they're taking credit for being consumer friendly.

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    [–] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    TOO LATE!

    These companies are unbelievable. Create the most predatory system on the planet and when their bottom line tanks they turn around like they didn’t create the very thing they now want to “fix”.

    Anyone have an ETA on the rocket to the sun?

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    I stopped using their site for anything years ago. This was one of the main reasons. Too little too late for me.

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  • [+] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    before taxes

    Why is the West like this

    Edit: America. Sorry for bundling you functional EU countries into this

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Theres been only a couple times in my life where I considered an AirBnB over a motel/hotel.

    Every time I ended up staying at the Hotel/Motel, because it ended up being cheaper.

    I remember looking at an airbnb that was like 25 dollars a night, and went to check out.. and had to do a fucking comic book double take because the 25 dollars a night (was only needing it for one night) ended up being like 250 dollars thanks to bullshit cleaning fees and other exploitative, hidden bullshit.

    So if that 25 dollar a night place is now being displayed as 250 dollars a night.. then I forsee AirBnB bookings plummeting.

    the motel I ended up at instead was only 75 bucks all in, just as point of reference.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Wouldn't this make Americans uncomfortable, they aren't used to seeing the actual cost of something until one step away from checkout, or sometimes not even then.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    In future news, AirBnB has gone bankrupt due to lack of bookings.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I remember when things like Uber and Air BnB came along the media was saying it was the death of cab companies and hotels. Well enshittification marches on and they've both become bogged down in costs, fees, rules, etc.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Any alternatives? Especially European?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    hotels/hostels?

    Airbnb turns potential living space into hotel space and thereby helps driving up housing prices. The whole concept is inherently problematic.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I never stayed in an Airbnb, always found easier and/or better options at hotels, or an apartment at booking.com. People act like Airbnb came up with the concept of renting apartments, while websites like this have been doing this for a decade by the time it came around.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    Booking is also pretty scummy. There was a blog post a few years ago from a hotel that always showed up as sold out, even it had plenty empty rooms. In the end it was a "feature" where other hotels could "promote" their business in a city so it would show up first, but the competition would also be listed as unavailable to force visitors into the promoted business. The other thing is that booking will show "only one room left" to pressure you into booking right now, but what ot actually means is that a hotel might only allocate 20 of 100 rooms to booking, and still has 81 free rooms if you call them directly.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Total price display? Always been there. Always been a legal requirement.

    (Not in your place? LOL)

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'd shoot myself rather than using Airbnb again.

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I stopped using them the minute they said they had to store a copy of my ID.

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