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[β] rebul@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (3 children) I would prefer to see a wider embrace of PWAs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] rmuk@feddit.uk 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is what really, really pissed me off about the iPhone. When it launched and they gave it a desktop-class web browser engine and told people they were going all-in in PWAs (though I don't think the term existed at the time). Then v2 came out and they went sike! native apps, must be developed on our PCs, must be distributed by us, you must pay us to be allowed to develop, we take a cut of your income, and we're going to cripple the PWA engine to make universal, open apps all but unusable. Dicks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Melco@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] punseye@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can PWAs perform just like native apps when it comes to smoothness and optimization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Yes, if the underlying engine is designed to support it. There are standard web APIs for accelerated graphics, compute, offline storage, Bluetooth, push notification, environmental sensors, phone book access, camera, local storage access, and so on... A decent PWA is indistinguishable from a native app. permalink fedilink source parent [β] essteeyou@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd probably agree if I didn't work as an Android developer. :-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You can build webapps in kotlin :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I do love Kotlin, but I work extensively with audio playback on a low level (Oboe, native) so a web app just won't work for me. Also, I can't really justify rewriting my company's entire app because I don't like Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Carter@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is there any way of "installing" PWAs to the app drawer rather than been limited to a shortcut on the home screen? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the PWA, if they have the manifest setup properly it should give the option by itself and even the add to desktop button should change to install the app, but very few sites support it (among the ones I use) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rmuk@feddit.uk 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) This is what really, really pissed me off about the iPhone. When it launched and they gave it a desktop-class web browser engine and told people they were going all-in in PWAs (though I don't think the term existed at the time). Then v2 came out and they went sike! native apps, must be developed on our PCs, must be distributed by us, you must pay us to be allowed to develop, we take a cut of your income, and we're going to cripple the PWA engine to make universal, open apps all but unusable. Dicks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Melco@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] punseye@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can PWAs perform just like native apps when it comes to smoothness and optimization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Yes, if the underlying engine is designed to support it. There are standard web APIs for accelerated graphics, compute, offline storage, Bluetooth, push notification, environmental sensors, phone book access, camera, local storage access, and so on... A decent PWA is indistinguishable from a native app. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] punseye@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can PWAs perform just like native apps when it comes to smoothness and optimization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Yes, if the underlying engine is designed to support it. There are standard web APIs for accelerated graphics, compute, offline storage, Bluetooth, push notification, environmental sensors, phone book access, camera, local storage access, and so on... A decent PWA is indistinguishable from a native app. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Yes, if the underlying engine is designed to support it. There are standard web APIs for accelerated graphics, compute, offline storage, Bluetooth, push notification, environmental sensors, phone book access, camera, local storage access, and so on... A decent PWA is indistinguishable from a native app. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] essteeyou@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd probably agree if I didn't work as an Android developer. :-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You can build webapps in kotlin :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I do love Kotlin, but I work extensively with audio playback on a low level (Oboe, native) so a web app just won't work for me. Also, I can't really justify rewriting my company's entire app because I don't like Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You can build webapps in kotlin :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I do love Kotlin, but I work extensively with audio playback on a low level (Oboe, native) so a web app just won't work for me. Also, I can't really justify rewriting my company's entire app because I don't like Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I do love Kotlin, but I work extensively with audio playback on a low level (Oboe, native) so a web app just won't work for me. Also, I can't really justify rewriting my company's entire app because I don't like Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Carter@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is there any way of "installing" PWAs to the app drawer rather than been limited to a shortcut on the home screen? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the PWA, if they have the manifest setup properly it should give the option by itself and even the add to desktop button should change to install the app, but very few sites support it (among the ones I use) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago Depends on the PWA, if they have the manifest setup properly it should give the option by itself and even the add to desktop button should change to install the app, but very few sites support it (among the ones I use) permalink fedilink source parent