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[–] [S] 152 points 2 years ago (3 children)

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This sucks. Implies he can only like a trans woman if he's bi and not if he's straight.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    What makes you think there's a trans girl involved? Could just be a femboy. Also, there's nothing wrong with bi dudes liking trans girls.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I suppose that's possible, but the lack of clarity on that point still makes me uncomfortable. And there's nothing wrong with bi dudes liking trans women, obviously. I am a bi dude who happens to be dating multiple trans women.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why does it matter?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Because the idea that a man attracted to trans women could not be straight is transphobic. Trans women are women and a man attracted to women can be straight regardless of whether they're trans or cis.

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  • [+] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nah. Even if it's hetero, it's probably not straight. Straightness is similar to whiteness; simply a term to say "you're normal and deserving of respect." It's a normal word, not simply a descriptive one.

    Dating a nonbinary person as a binary person is definitionally hetero, but hard to call straight. An agender person and a bigender person would totally be het, but totally not be straight. If it's not a relationship between 2 monogamous, cishet people assigned opposite sexes at birth, it's weird and unnatural.

    Bigots can literally gatekeep straightness from a cishet woman dating a cisbi man. It's like a tainting of her for being with a queer person, even if neither she nor the relationship is queer. It doesn't matter if they're monogamous for life; it's one drop of queerness poisoning their ability to be normal. They'd need to hide his true orientation.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So wait, are they a femboy and not a trans woman then?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think boils down to "similar optics, different gender identity", but I'm neither of these flavors so I really don't know. But for this joke, I think either works.

    Calling for assistance: we need a ruling here. Halp.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    i would say femboys are generally seen as not wanting to be female, just feminine. Same as how crossdressing doesn't make you trans, it just means you like crossdressing.

    a term sometimes used synonymously with femboy is tomgirl, as a mirror to tomboy, and you wouldn't start calling tomboys trans men would you? They're people who identify as female but present less femininely.

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