@heiseonline@social.heise.de

Warum in der #Schweiz? Der #Datenschutz ist da nicht besser als in der #EU, oder? Oder gar schlechter?

#GDPR #DSGVO

@erebion @dominik @movim

I'm using Matrix only for public channels, same as IRC, both via #XMPP bridges, i.e. I'm totally ignorant about it.

TTBOMK, Matrix is more heavy-weight on resources, both server-side and communication, compared to #Jabber.

Also, the ecosystem evolved in recent years, making it more fun to use than ≈2014, when I started using Jabber. Onboarding got better, too.

XMPP isn't a competitor to AP, yet, but I see potential in #Movim and #Libervia. Let's see 🙂

@Goffi

@movim @dominik

Note, that #OMEMO has been taken directly from Signal, only adapted for #XMPP.

Most modern #Jabber clients default to OMEMO for one-to-one conversations nowadays. For private groups, I believe, users still have to enable it explicitely.

I'm not aware of any public Jabber server that would still accept non-TLS connections, so you have both transport #encryption and #e2ee.

@dominik

Plus #Movim by @movim and #Libervia by @Goffi, both using #XMPP 🙂

@possiblylinux127

The #Jabber feature sets are defined in the compliance suite, e.g. here:

"XEP-0479: #XMPP Compliance Suites 2023"

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0479.html#im

Many Jabber clients do end-to-end encryption by default. I would not care too much in the age of #surveillance directly at the source, i.e. on the device 🤷

If you want an even more coherent feature set and also be sure, all your clients encrypt by default, your best bet is #Snikket by @snikket_im. Highly recommended!

@TheDorkfromYork

YMMV, but my minimum requirements were:

1. Federated just like lemmy or mastodon or email, so I can choose a server or even selfhost.

2. First class clients for Linux available, not only Android/iOS, no Electron bloatware.

3. No phone number involved.

That rules out Signal, Whatsapp and some more. Matrix fits. However I prefer #Jabber a.k.a. #XMPP. Matter of taste, I guess 🤷

PS: "Note to yourself", incl. file upload, is supported by all servers and most clients, AFAIK.