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[–] 92 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Can't wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.

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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, he's a billionaire. I guess there's big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago

    Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?

    (No.)

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

    The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.

    Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates' cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You want a dystopia? Because that's how you get a dystopia.

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  • [+] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nope. It is only for the peons. Dissidents will have ANY behavior be seen as bad and the fascists will be identified specifically to train the AI to ignore them or automatically rule them out as suspects. Blame their victims and not the perps.

    BTW, people like Zuckerberg fucking HATE people like you and me. He considered the people who trusted him with their emails (when he was in university and coming up with the idea of Facebook) to be absolute idiots and even more so for trusting him with that information. He lives his life in a way that insures that we know as little about him as possible. He lives in a compound that is impossible to view via satellite imagery AND he has the actual house he lives in surrounded by dummy buildings specifically so that people cannot spy on his with telescopes. He is obsessed with privacy and probably has never been seen on CCTV in years.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Also I expect there should be more surveillance around powerful people like Larry Ellison, right?

    The more powerful, the more important is to ensure good behavior, and the more public / peer-reviewed the AI model and its logs should be to avoid tampering/laundering.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    They consider themselves to be gods and so far better than you and me that any behavior on their part is none of your business (even if it directly affected you and your entire family and community) but if you so much have a 10 minute variation in your sleep they want to know and probably film you when sleeping without any justification and they will tell you to go to hell if you tell them to stop.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
    https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11008328/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-evidence/

    Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-red-light-ticket-camera-illinois-car-stolen-theft/11677595/

    And the police/courts won't help you because it's a problem from the private company running the cameras... I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.

    A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).

    Even then, I'd rather cameras not be used in this way at all.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that's for sure

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Maybe I'm an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to "poor people".

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    1984 was not a manual

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Why don't you volunteer to be the test case Larry?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Theyre already there

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    they put that shit into water bottles... water bottles! Like they have a water bottle that can be synched to your phone and it's % shown on screen and it changes color at set intervals to remind you to drink. Like for fucks sake dude!

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop "vandals".

    Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet...

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Welcome to China

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Like person of interest?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    AI camera VS. A .45 Magnum

    Tune in next decade to find out who will win this epic battle.

    Edit: Why does this guy look like Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta?

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  • [+] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah but what is "good" behaviour?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    we should test edge cases to ensure safety, let's shove one down this guys' throat

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