cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/4448974

I've recently started using a self hosted SearXNG instance but I'm still using the search engines enabled by default (google, duckduckgo and qwant). What search engines do you have enabled or which ones do you feel you've gotten the best results with?

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[–] 13 points 2 years ago

I've stuck with DuckDuckGo for years. It's mostly gotten pretty good if you search in English. Other languages can be iffy.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    I can't be bothered to self host a search engine. I just stick to duck duck go and I've tried some whoogle instances but I just prefer ddg at this point.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    SearXNG, it was fairly easy to get used to coming from duckduckgo because !! uses the same !bang search as ddg. (honestly !bang searches were the only thing keeping me on ddg)

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    DuckDuckGO for the bangs, with a custom !bang made for my favorite SearXNG instance; on which most of my 'googling' actually happens.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I am trying Kagi but use ddg quite often too.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    I used to use searx for a couple years but it got too unreliable where it would fail to load results all the time randomly. Tried DDG and consistently ended up having to manually switch to google after the results on DDG just weren't good enough (think troubleshooting linux issues and stuff, DDG would never find the obscure answer in a forum but google would).

    Anyways, ofc the goal wasn't to end up back at google so now I've been using startpage for the last few months and it seems to work great with no issues.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Presearch. I don't care for the crypto features. (I already got Monero anyway) but the concept of a decentralized search engine is interesting.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    DuckDuckGo, I'll switch to SearXNG as soon as it comes to Windows

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    Does a public instance ID or log users? I never even considered it because it seems risky, like I'm asking for backdoor access to my network

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I just did some tests on DDG (sorry OP, not related to SearXNG). If you use it normally, they put a lot of images from URL like improving.duckduckgo.com/t/we?monitor=you&spying=secretly&id=etc (supposedly for improving DDG by gathering statistical blah blah). Their no-JavaScript version is much less invasive.

    Solution(s): 1) uBlock is highly recommended, 2) if possible disable JS, 3) try Tor Browser, which is just an anonymity version of Firefox

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Thanks, didn’t know LibreJS. Its concept is interesting. But there is a libre tracking JavaScript too. Besides, these tracking URLs on DDG are images (“web bugs”), not scripts. uBlock blocks these things on DDG already on its own.

    Noscript can easily disable JavaScript for specific domain(s). One can install this add-on (or if you use TB it’s already there by default). So if disabling JS partially or totally is acceptable, that’s one of the options for DDG.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    uBlock + (MetaGer or Searx or DDG/html[no JS]), via Tor 24/7. Onion available. Individually, hit and miss. In total, good enough for me. While DDG is okay (the default search engine for Tor Browser, Tails), intuitively I don't fully trust it. Its no-JS version is acceptable.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    Daily driver: Qwant

    Niche searches: kagi

    Not privacy friendly— Ai: perplexity.ai

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Qwant for work and DDG for personal stuff

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I am testing both for personal use right now, can you share your experience and how you came to the decision which to use for personal use and which for work?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Qwant has very similar search results to Google which I need for work. DDG is IMO more private so I use it for personal stuff.

    Also Qwant has better results than DDG is languages other than English.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Brave Search and Startpage.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    ecosia.org It care about my privacy and It also plant Trees from ad revenue.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Qwant. And occasionally Google and DuckDuckGo

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I need Google results, in my experience they are the best. That's why I'm using startpage.com That's the best alternative I have up to today

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I'm planing on self hosting a Searx instance. But right now I'm very happy with DuckDuckGo. I find I get less biased results and a lot of the time I prefer it's results to google. And for the odd time I want an image and DDG isn't giving me what I want I use bing, which is probably the best search engine for images from my experience.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately DDG blocks piracy related searches and torrents, that's why I don't support them anymore, also they plan on banning "misinformation" whatever that means. I don't like it anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I am using https://4get.ca/ It's a metasearch engine, I can search in various search engines anonymously through it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I currently use searx.org instance of SearXNG which for me works decently, and I can still use the ! searches of DuckDuckGo in it, just adding another !, like !!wikipedia

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Sorry, this question was SearXNG specific, so MetaGer was irrelevant. I’ve never self-hosted it, but I’d say Brave. It’s supposed to have its own index (correct me if I’m wrong), so one can expect some diversity.

    As for DDG, there shouldn’t be any problems if used via SearXNG. In general, there are a few comments about DDG here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1164105.html and I quote:

    Negative:

    ~1-2 years back they collected data on which search results their users clicked on by default with their own link-forwarder. After some outcry they removed that. Their "privacy browser" allowed third party cookies by Microsoft to track their users because DDG made a deal with them without telling anyone. When it came out Gabriel Weinberg released some BS statements.

    Positive:

    DDG doesn't even have a Linux browser, but I love their Android browser. The DDG search engine provides results that are quite fine

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Brave is surprisingly good

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I use it daily. Just their account system with that fucked up login-by-email sucks hard. Especially since I have to refresh my session in multiple browsers on multiple devices.

    (I use Premium for ad free search.)

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