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Spreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities (media.gehirneimer.de)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net count, an instance I hardly interact with.

Community Count Community Subscriber Count
beehaw.org 6 133450
hexbear.net 33 663204
lemdro.id 1 17052
lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 15907
lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 53006
lemmy.ml 14 356460
lemmy.one 1 16257
lemmy.world 39 851950
lemmynsfw.com 2 33586
sh.itjust.works 1 16006
sopuli.xyz 1 14093

The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as "suspicious")

EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month:

Community Count Community Active Month Count
awful.systems 1 2616
feddit.org 2 7363
feddit.uk 2 5289
hexbear.net 1 2952
lemdro.id 1 2898
lemm.ee 3 8898
lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 11422
lemmy.ca 3 14910
lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 13752
lemmy.ml 10 54949
lemmy.world 57 338384
lemmy.wtf 1 3602
lemmy.zip 3 12020
mander.xyz 1 11469
sh.itjust.works 5 37365
slrpnk.net 3 10897
sopuli.xyz 2 10070
ttrpg.network 1 4107

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[–] 135 points 2 years ago (49 children)

I knew hexbear was big but not that big

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  • [–] 72 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah I can’t say I was bothered when LW defederated. I’ve gotten in way fewer stupid arguments since they did the same with Lemmygrad. IIRC LW didn’t even let hexbear federate in the first place.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    You're not really using the fediverse until you've been told that you'll get the bullet, too. Sometimes, it's exhausting commenting something pretty uncontroversial and then seeing like eight notifications and realizing it was on Hexbear.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Can you truly say you've had the HB experience if you haven't recieved emoji/sticker/gif spam from people who weren't alive for 9/11, have never been outside their country, and refuse to listen to opposing views, but know with full certainty that all western countries are 100% full of genociders and colonial rapists who all deserve the glorious death the super benign, extremely peaceful and misunderstood countries of North Korea, China, and Russia who have never once been correctly accused of human rights violations....

    And of course, if they point out that your country has dipped into those things in the past, well your entire worldview is shattered and their whataboutism has solved everything and proves you deserve the death they crave for you.

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    My guess is that they just needed to have their own community for a lot of stuff because so many instances are defederated from them. Though I am not sure...

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    I guess it's also natural that subcultures that tend to be banned elsewhere are early adaptors of alternative platforms.

    We're lucky we didn't exist when the Trump extremists on Reddit went looking for a new home, or they would probably have been one of the biggest fields in this figure. Hopefully when the right wing extremists arrive instance admins will have the good sense to defederate.

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    [–] 102 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Active users is the standard metric used to check how much a service is used (at least as far as i know. its what i see when i look at stuff published for investors).

    hexbar is on the sixth place in term of number of active users with 1.8K , lemmy.world is 18K (enable the "active users" column and sort by it to see the full list)

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Always nice to see lemmynsfw doing well. Those guys are going to bring a lot of people here

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lemmy.world has no lock in on their "power". They have the most volunteer labor, money, and infrastructure. That's makes them stable, so people aren't worried about their data suddenly going offline (like kbin) and they don't worry about the service being flaky.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The same can be said about gmail and it is the same kind of problem here. Yes lemmy.world is not a profit orient it giant, but it is still a problem when one actor has this power over a federated network. (the scale of the problem is of course a lot larger with gmail)

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Technical issues with Lemmy are, I think, still driving people to larger instances.

    The big one is that if I make a community on a smaller instance, and gain ANY amount of volume and traction (which is not all that easy to do in the first place) and that server vanishes, shit's just... dead. It's gone and not coming back, because you can't move a community from a dead server to a live server.

    Which means using one of the big, established, funded, stable, working instances is the only rational choice, but that also means I'll probably just make an account and post exclusively from there, and thus you end up in this cycle of everyone just going to one of the larger instances in preference to any of the smaller ones.

    Everyone goes on and on and on about account portability being very important (which, I suppose it is: I don't think we need account portability but rather distributed identity independent of the specific platform you're using, but that's a whole different technical mess) but for something like Lemmy, being assured that the community you're working on will survive servers vanishing and a means to "take ownership" in a way that lets you port it to another home if and when your instance dies - because, for the most part, it's going to at some point - is far far more needed.

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Surprised I dont see programming.dev in the data, we definitely have at least 3 communities in the top 100 (programmer_humor, programming, linux)

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Manually counted communities in the top 100 per instance and threw it into another pie chart (for active users / month)

    This also seems to be different than the results gotten from lemmyverse as the lemmyverse data hasnt been updated in 11 days according to that site

    A bunch of instances gained or lost some coms in the top 100 from variance of things happening in the last week

    (the eight instances that it decided to not give labels to that have 1 community are feddit.uk, lemmy.zip, beehaw.org, lemdro.id, ttrpg.network, lemmy.wtf, lemmy.blahaj.zone, mander.xyz)

    edit: updated graph to be more accurate users/month counts

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    [–] [S] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And here the diagram by community subscriber count:

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    • [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    I think subscriber count is probably not ideal. I've seen communities where the number subscribers is 10x the number of active monthly users.

    For other communities, subscribers is about equal to active users.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    Based on Monthly active users, the picture is different: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

    You already see a 4 sh.itjust.works community, a lemmy.ca community, a lemmy.zip community just from the top 30

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I might as well leave lemmy.world

    I'm only concerned about how to transfer all my stuff to the new account. Mastodon makes it super easy.

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    Probably unintended side-effect of this post: A few people like me discovering new communities to follow. Thank you!

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    You didn't use a black color for us? Heresy!

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Poor lemm.ee

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Nah I’d say this is right on par with the philosophy of the instance. Lemm.ee is moreso infrastructure for interacting with the fediverse than a specific community

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    • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (23 children)

    anyone have any guesses as to why lemmy.world is so big? Scale/size advantage? Reliability advantage? Name recognition? What do we think is the culprit here.

    And whilst i'm here, anybody want to explain the source of lemmy.ml to me? I only know it as the instance where mad people yell at me from lol.

    perhaps a more "ambiguous" federation system would be better. having community instances is nice and all, but having one literally just be lemmy.world seems a little bit antithetical to me.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lemmy.world has kept open signups open during every large Reddit exodus while many others didn't. It's also decently reliable, has decent moderation and is well known. The reason why people didn't move after is probably because instance migration on Lemmy isn't possible* so they just stick with what they use.

    *Yes I don't consider exporting/importing followed communities a migration

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    About lemmy.world - when running from reddit, it was literally first on the list of advised ones everywhere. Also, biggest, so it had most communities. I am actually pretty much only aware of .world, .dbzer0 and sh.itjust.works. From the normal ones anyway.

    lemmy.ml is basically an instance made by creators of lemmy from what I know.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    Programming.dev represent! o7

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Jesus Christ, that's a lot of weirdos.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    suprised mander.xyz is so small

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Surprised to see my small instance mentioned here 😅

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