US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”

Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.

The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been "viciously" misquoting him.

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[–] 139 points 2 years ago (1 child)

But there's been so many.

"Dictator on day one"

"You won't have to vote anymore"

Those are just the two off the top of my head as I'm heading back into work on my lunch break.

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  • [+] 81 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The one thing I am fairly certain about though is that, assuming riots like that are happening in D.C., Biden will not hesitate to send out forces to stop it. Trump could have but didn't want to.

    There might be a few more Ashley Babbits this time.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My dad tried to talk about how "they just killed her" a while back...

    I was like: they gave her a lawful order. She was literally breaking into one of the most secure facilities in the world. She saw the trained men with the loaded firearms pointed at her and proceeded to move through a broken down door..

    And then don't forget that oath... From all threats foreign and domestic.. she was a domestic threat. And the agent removed that threat.

    Shut him right up.

    These idiots want to fafo? I hope dark Brandon is waiting for them.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    And she had military training and knew exactly what orders that guy had, so she knew it was going to happen, she was just betting that they wouldn't dare or that their group of insurrectionists would overpower them. But she failed on every count and paid with her life.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This is the entire quote:

    "No, we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it, it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars, they're building massive factories."

    The context is talking about Chinese cars, but the bit where he says "it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it." really looks to me like he's saying there will be a bloodbath in general if he doesn't get elected, the one in the car industry being small compared to it.

    I don't know why I'm spending time and energy examining the idiotic ramblings of the orange gibbon.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I understand he is talking about cars... but that's not how anyone has taken it...

    As a left centrist in a deep deep red state. I've got yet another firearm on order currently.

    My politics boil down to

    I want my state sponsored medically insured gay married neighbors and their adopted freely educated children to be able to protect their legally grown pot plants with fully automatic ak47s.

    Lol

    Hilariously those beliefs are sins in the face of my neighbor's... Which blows my mind.

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    [–] 62 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I think Biden, being freed up and all, should spend some time fortifying the election results. I know the election is inherently flawed but there should be systems in place to stop another Jan 6th. Do some maintenance. Get commitments from the states themselves. Jus saying.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (59 children)

    Ditch the electoral college, certify the election with a popular vote, adopt ranked choice.

    But then the 1% would become the 10% and I'm sorry but that just won't do, it's a very nuanced system that boils down to Rich good Poor bad. /s

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    He can't just change the Constitution.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's absolutely true. However with the SCOTUS rulings as of late regarding the Executive branch, it could be fun to try.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If we ever get a trifecta again we need to kill the filibuster and then pass a law to expand Congress so the EC is effectively locked to the national result. As a bonus it seriously hurts lobbyists and gives us better representation.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well - why would he be? Trump didn't accept it last time, and this is well and truly the end of the road for him if he doesn't win. He's 77 as it is, but zero point zero zero zero zero percent chance he gets this close again.

    And the cost of not winning is monumental. It's victory or destruction for the vulgar talking yam. If he's no longer of any use to Russia, imagine what information might come out about him, especially if they themselves descend into instability.

    Trump never accepts any defeat, ever. It's always a disgrace, the worst, most nasty this and that that's so unfair to him. Of course he's not going to accept a defeat. What the adults do about it is the important variable.

    Given his legal trouble, he very truly could either be president or imprisoned. he probably has less money than he wants us to believe, fleeing to Russia or Venezuela etc isn't really an option. His money will just be seized by the state and he will be disposed of as an impotent, toothless old hippo, only capable of making noise, with no more use to offer anyone.

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  • Yeah it's pretty obvious to everyone that it's all or bust for trump. He's desperate. Nothing to lose.

    They're already strategising how to steal the election. They're already on record saying they know exactly who to call when it's time to validate the results from each state.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Then fucking DO something about it. Publicly get the national guard to guard Washington or whatever. Talking about it just encourages them.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I predict riots regardless of who wins.

    The only way to avoid it is if either side wins with a landslide, showing that the majority of the country is for the elected winner.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I doubt it. trump appears to have lost a lot of persuasive power.

    If Harris wins, I'm pretty sure all the conservatives are going to slink back under rocks for the next few years.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If Harris wins, a lot of places where Trump "should have" won are going to falsely claim fraud and refuse to certify their votes, leading to another Jan 6.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago

    The damage Trump and his ilk have done to this country by undermining the public trust in some of the best run elections in the world is incalculable. It will be decades if ever before that damage is undone.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yep. Guaranteed they've already figured out the specific people they need to put pressure on when the time comes.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Here in Georgia, I've got a front-row seat:

    (Reminder: Georgia is the state that not only went blue in 2020, but also saved the Democratic majority in the Senate.)

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I would respectfully disagree with that assessment.

    Even if 2024 is a huge enough electoral wipe out that Trump and his MAGA base are embarrassed to follow through on the violence they’ve been promising for years. Yes, Republicans might slink away and hide.

    But they will rebrand and be back within a few months. We’ve seen this before at the start of the Obama Presidency’, when the fall out from the G.W. Presidency showed that Republicans had shit the bed sooo hard, even hard core Republicans that I knew denied they ever supported W. (Even though a few had fucking pictures of the asshat on their office walls for years.)

    But the useful idiots that make up the core of the Republican base were back in a few months as “Tea Party” Republicans. Fully funded and promoted Koch and other billionaires. All those hard core W. supporters suddenly got angry and jumped on that band wagon.

    Make no mistake they will be back, even in the best case scenario. (Which I very much doubt will happen.)

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Translation: There will be enough military force there to snuff out any bullshit Dementia Don the weird racist rapist with 34 felonies brings.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Of course he's gonna try it again, you took it far too lightly last time. Maybe Kamala will enforce the law

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    It sent a fundraising email

    Trump's response to everything, good, bad, indifferent, or wildly spun

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Cool. Put machine gun nests in the capital this time.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Taken out of context" MFers when they actually read the primary sources of the Confederacy (⁠ノ⁠ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ⁠)⁠ノ⁠彡⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    People fear that the person who incited a mass riot the last time they lost an election will incite a mass riot if he loses this election?

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Biden can literally guarantee the peaceful transition of power to Harris. Whatever he chooses to do is an official act, right? So do whatever it takes to put down any bullshit, Joe.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    US is a broken system, if it isn't this time it's next.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Gee, you think the guy who was the first president not to support a peaceful transfer of power, who tried to subvert the government by an organized mob, and who hasn't expressed any wrongdoing at all might not be nice about it this time?

    My only quibble is that the transfer of power itself will be fine, because it would be between Biden and Harris. Trump wouldn't have any official power, and anything he and his supporters do couldn't be interpreted as official acts.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Might want the national guard on standby this time then. Dont wait for the legislators to waffle it

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    None of use are, Joe. None of us.

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