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[–] 209 points 2 years ago (22 children)

True story: half the country doesn't even know she's in yet.
Had to tell 3 peeps at dinner yesterday what's up.
I'm not alone.

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  • [–] 107 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I get how there are people who don't follow politics, but man... how do you avoid news like this?

    I mean, technically, she's not in until the convention... but you would think it would be common knowledge unless you're a recluse or a child who doesn't know most people by name.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Someone more famous than I (Meryl Streep?) once suggested that upon graduation, one should be mandated to drive a taxi for a year, just to see what it's "really like" out there.
    You'll have to take my word for it, she's so right.

    People still talk about litter boxes in schools for the furries - with a phone attached to their palms 24/7 that'll PROVE to them in seconds that it never happened...and, yet....

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    I just worked customer service for a decade. After awile you just take it in stride when an adult is functionally illiterate. Leaving aside the people who think Democrat and Republican have to do with the dictionary definitions of Democracy and Republic and nothing else.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    People still talk about litter boxes in schools for the furries - with a phone attached to their palms 24/7 that'll PROVE to them in seconds that it never happened...and, yet....

    ...yet they find that one thread on Nextdoor where one person claimed that it happened in their child's classroom and a lot of self-righteous pearl clutching. Therefore, that must be the truth.

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    [–] 121 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I'd like to remind everyone that 8 years ago, the polls showed Hillary was going to trounce Trump pretty handedly. There was tons of discussion after the election about how the polls could be so wrong.

    I think Fivethityeight's explanation went something like...

    If a candidate is only polling 40% to their opponents's 60%, and you were to run the election 10 times with a different sampling of voters each time, it doesn't mean that the candidate will lose by 60% every time. It means they're going to win four times out of ten.

    Don't let polls lull you into either complacency or despair. The only thing polls are really good for is giving pundits something to talk about in the 24 hour news cycle. Polls don't decide the election. Only actual votes on actual ballots that are actually submitted in time decide the election.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    And this messaging is a large part of what led to low democrat turnout when Hillary was running for office. Her early campaign had basically been “lol don’t worry about this, he’s an idiot who doesn’t gave a chance of winning.” It wasn’t until about a month before the actual election that someone in her campaign team realized this would lull voters into a false sense of security. Suddenly, their entire tone changed from “he has no chance of winning” to “oh for fucks sake please go vote”. But it was too little, too late. Democrat voters stayed home, and handed the win to Trump.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    538 put Trump's 2016 chances at about 75%. That means Trump needed to flip two coins and have them both come up heads. It wasn't a ridiculous outside chance at all.

    People have also let Comey and his last minute letter off the hook. Polls were really close, but favored Hillary. That letter came too late for any poll to absorb the new information, but it very likely tipped the scales. There were a lot of things that went wrong in that election--it never should have been so close in the first place--but that very likely shifted the outcome.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Very very true, I put time and money into Bernie Sanders second bid, the polling made it look like he was going to win the primary in a devistating landslide. It never materialized, his base, if they ever were serious weren't serious enough to actually make it to a polling place on the day of. Very disappointing. Never think the polling will match the voting, they can be very different animals.

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    [–] [S] 86 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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    Michigan fucking loves her. Damn.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    also, Trump did nothing for them

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    What state could claim he did something for them? That this once again is a close race constantly boggled my mind.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Ask Wisconsin how that Foxconn contract he helped secure for them turned out.

    (For those not familiar, and disinclined to investigate further, the answer is "Not great.")

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Wisconsin here. I'm really surprised that vocal trumpers in this state aren't strung by their balls by fellow citizens.

    But then again people still vote for Ron Johnson and Robin Vos

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Kamala Harris is going to wipe the floor with Trump.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    We are!

    She can’t do it alone, and we can’t assume that she’ll win. Keep pushing until she’s sworn in Jan 2025.

    This is Trump’s last chance. The republicans will literally stop at nothing to ensure he wins.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Those margins are all uncomfortably close - "wipes out" is needlessly bombastic.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think that "wipes out" here is referring to the lead that Trump had in the polls previously. All the states went from a clear lead for Trump over Biden, to basically even, with one exception showing a clear lead.

    I think that it suggests a competitive race, rather than one side coasting to victory. It is hard to draw concrete conclusions still, but the clear lead is definitely gone

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure the country is ready for a gay VP, but my god Pete would destroy JD in the debate.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    This is awesome, the momentum looks like it’s going to keep up! The +11 point lead in MI is nothing to doubt, let’s go President Harris!

    I hope her campaign keeps reminding voters everywhere of project 2025, and exactly how it’s going to negatively impact their lives.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    How is drumpf even a candidate at this point?

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Overall the polls have been encouraging for her, but that MI one look really wrong. 538 has her about down a point on average.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/michigan/

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    538 shows the same result, Kamala +11, for the specific Morning Consult poll cited in the chart.

    But you are correct that this poll is an outlier compared to other polls, and we probably need more data and for the race to settle a bit before we have a sense of the actual margin.

    I'm hesitant to put too much stock in any numbers a single week into her candidacy. It also bears repeating that no poll matters unless people vote.

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