Does this mean we dont get to be tracked, data mined, ad-bombed, and exploited while our teens dont get depressed and sick from "social" media?

Well, if thats the price we pay, thats the price we pay... :)

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[+] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    What’s the easiest EU country to emigrate to?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you have no human principles, Hungary. You just have to buy some papers for it. Maybe learn a hard and useless language. But definitely love corruption and the suffering of other humans.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is not true. You need to have years of presence OR have Hungarian ancestry and a few years less presence OR be married to a Hungarian for a couple years. Top this off with being able to know the Hungarian language.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not if you buy the letelepedési kötvény (immigration bonds).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    Other countries have a similar system. Canada for example has the Start-up Visa, which requires about C$225k investment, or the Quebec one (now suspended) which required C$1.25m over five years.

    From what I can tell, the Hungarian requires somewhere between 200 and 300k EUR. This is not something that is affordable or easy to attain for the average lemmy poster. But again, this also does not guarantee citizenship, just residency.

    In short, requesting a work or study visa and then trying for the citizenship test five years later, after having learned the language, is probably a much more attainable way. But still far from the easiest country to emigrate to.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This is more bark than bite, imo. They're just threatening to withhold products at this point, but as the article points out:

    • Europe's a big market and profit focused companies aren't going to give that up just to make a point
    • Those that do will just encourage European competition to step up and fill whatever gaps might appear, which is just fine by the EU.

    So... go right ahead. Let's see how this really plays out.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    And the products they are threatening to withhold are exactly the products we don't want. Last time the tech giants threatened to leave entirely the EU asked when to plan the going away party. The current tactic from the giants isn't much better

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    "Meta has decided not to release a new multimodal AI model and related products in the EU.

    The move follows a similar decision last month by Apple to withhold its new Apple Intelligence features from Europe."

    Oh no. Wait. Come back.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)
    • Apple reversed log standing design policy to put a USB C charger in the iPhone because not selling iPhones in Europe was not a financially viable option.

    • Apple won't launch their AI features in Europe because changing to comply with regulations is too hard

    These features aren't that important then I guess?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    We don't want your shitty products :)

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds like it's working to me.

    Zuckbot, comply with GDPR or forget about EU.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Really hope so.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago*

    If your "product" is stealing my information for your "AI" or extorting me to buy "dongles", then please "withhold" it.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Corpo propaganda at it again...

    I

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Oh.... no... please.... do not do that...

    Anyways

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    oh no, not the products!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Oh dear, how sad, never mind

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Could they withhold their existence while we're at it?..

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Threatening a dog with a weiner I see. That's a bold strategy.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Oh no! Anyway...

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s too bad the websites that do this don’t have to put a label on it in the U.S. Something like “Not for consumption in the E.U.” to make people wonder what’s going on.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’m struggling with this as a website operator. I don’t have any third-party tracking, no external assets, nothing and I’m dying to put up a cookie banner stating as such even though it’s totally unnecessary and annoying.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You do not have to put up a cookie banner when you are only using technically required ones ornnone at all. Make a dedicated cookies page in your footer and have a table with every cookie, their name, their description and use as well as how long they last.

    If you have none, put that info on that page. All you need to do.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    This just in: good time threatened. O no

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    USA only wishes we were this cool.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nice! Thank you EU for the GDPR!

    For the next step, please let the companies that produce software be held accountable for damages. For Nonprofits change the target to associated companies. Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries. If the library was insufficiently supported by the developer, then the developer has no ground to sue for damages themselves.

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    [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This escalation will continue,

    until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:

    They will simply say something like:

    "Either your government removes laws, regulations, accountability, etc, from us,

    XOR we are hamstringing your country: we OWN you, we POSSESS you, & you will obey OUR rule."

    I guarantee this will be happening between now & 2036.

    Remember how they can ratchet-up a genocide, anywhere??

    They've already done so, in some places..

    ( Facebook & .. was it Myanmar? as 1 example )

    _ /\ _

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Does this mean we dont get to be tracked, data mined, ad-bombed, and exploited while our teens dont get depressed and sick from "social" media?

    Nah you still get all of that but in a shitter product.

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