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[–] 70 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Their only dignified escape from the conservative nightmare is by their own hand. Nothing good in history has ever come from conservatism. Nothing.

Conservatism is a plague of oppression and death. And the plague is spreading.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    What if they don't have the power to topple their oppressors without foreign intervention?

    It seems that's the case for Iran.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Foreign infervention is almost always the worst possible option.

    It only makes sense in the case of active mass genocides (think WWII, Cambodia or Serbia). Toppling an oppresive but stable regime through foreign power always ends in destabilisation and even more suffering to the people.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Foreign infervention is almost always the worst possible option.

    Agreed.

    Anyone who suggests otherwise needs to look at the very long history of foreign attempts at "intervention" in Afghanistan.

    The country was left worse than it was after each of those many failed attempts.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Serbia? Serbia (SR Yugoslavia) did a lot of nasty shit, but 99' intervention was not a product of a genocide, let alone a massive one.

    UN ruling in question, BBC article.

    Crimes against humanity and war crimes did take place, it said, but "the exactions committed by Milosevic's regime cannot be qualified as criminal acts of genocide, since their purpose was not the destruction of the Albanian ethnic group... but its forceful departure from Kosovo".

    Srebreica was a genocide, but was not perpotrated by actual Serbia, if it makes any difference...

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Latest: The Taliban have decreed that any woman caught attempting suicide will be put to death.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Correct me if I'm wrong but don't some JudeoIslamic factions already punish suicide with death?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Yes. Though it's not really as hypocritical as it seems at first glance.

    Assume you view suicide as being punished with eternal torment.

    Someone wants to kill themselves, but, if you kill them instead it isn't a mortal sin.

    From your moral framework the execution is now a mercy. They no longer suffer, in this life or the next.

    Ya know, if you believe in sky daddies and whatnot.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, even without the religious aspect, that might be kinda nice

    "We caught you trying to kill yourself through some nasty means, here, have some state sponsored painless nitrogen to breathe"

    I mean setting aside the horrible power it would give the gov, it's a really funny image of someone being talked down from suicide by jumping into getting professional suicide help so they can do it easier

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They should kill the men in their lives first

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I'm sure some have tried, and succeeded, and I'm sure some have tried and failed.

    I'm betting what follows for both situations is making these women take their lives first instead.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Disturbing yes but not entirely surprising. I hope the Taliban get their just dues for what their doing to women soon.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    The army that folded in two days after 20 years of time wasted trying to make a horse drink.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    West Armies should have armed the women and minorities.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's the middle east, they're not "minorities" in their own fucking country lol

    Armed the women? Certainly would have worked if they'd been willing to fight, probably would have only driven more Afghani army into the Taliban's ranks though. Considering even the non-extremists in the area don't want women equal to men at this point.

    Sharia law is the problem, we will never have a functional middle east until religious authoritarianism stops being the actual written law. Problem is most of them are comfortable in their current existence and have no reason to change. Any change we suggest or offer will just be met with "these evil westerners are trying to destroy our faith!"

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Absolutely tragic, but I probably would do the same were I forced to live the life they're forced to with no hope of escape.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    This was 100% predictable

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Gee, I wonder why... is it because they're treated like property instead of people?

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