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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

This.

Most people I know are not ready to hear this. But it’s too late now, so. Here this is.

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[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In California only 10% of our water use is by consumers. A ridiculous amount of our water goes into crops that we sell to China allowing those farms to turn our water into massive profits!

During droughts here our leaders tell us to not take long showers and to not flush as often. They even pushed restaurants to stop serving water without being asked first.

And you see lots of stories about the horrible homeowners who dare to water their lawns! Oh what a wonderful distraction from the issue that one is from the fact that no amount of consumer changes can make a difference and small restrictions on corporations would solve the problem entirely!

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I don't disagree with you on anything except the lawn thing.

Fuck those lawns. Keeping a 18th century style neat French lawn while living in a desert is not a good use of water.

Have a meadow instead. Keeps the water better and adds to biodiversity.

But yeah fuck those corporations. John Oliver had a good episode about water:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtxew5XUVbQ

I personally believe traditional agriculture has to shift towards more hydroponic settings. The water savings are crazy. Yeah there are a lot of problems can't just change fields into hydros, but....

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[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

I agree from a general fuck lawns perspective. I hope to never rake another leaf or mow another blade of grass in my life.

In the context of my argument, though, I'm complaining about the propaganda tactic involved. They're manipulating the public by using a subject that brings up outrage already (lawns are bad is part of it, but the bigger part is pitting the poor against the not as poor but definitely not really wealthy) in order to draw attention away from the real issue.

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Sean Locke on Climate Change

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago*

Yeah, corporations pushing responsibility to the consumer. Same old annoying as fuck song.

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[–] speedingcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Don’t get me started on how much water is lost in CA due to leaking infrastructure that they can’t be bothered to fix because water is cheap.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The whole Colorado River water thing is a fucking complicated mess that I can't begin to understand. All kinds of weird water rights laws between farmers, ranchers and whoever, not to mention the all the use in Arizona, and fuck knows what else. Every time I read an article about disputes and such my brain melts.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

But what can we do? Torturing animals is so tasty

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

In this situation, it's actually growing alfalfa in an arid climate because water access from the river is use-it-or-lose-it based on an imaginary amount of water that don't exist.

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[–] conquer4@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

If you can provide the water, desert is the most productive and fertile farmland in the world. But if we can't provide the water, we will need more farmland elsewhere to make up the loss.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago*

Alfalfa is a highly water intensive crop. The alfalfa being grown in the southwest is almost entirely exported.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Let's talk about cotton farming in Arizona, too.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago

Yes we know