People are still running Win7 without pause. Don't kid yourself!
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Okay, but it's still bad for the environment if nobody picks them up
Thats assuming that people are actually going to throw their computers in the trash when the OS reaches end of life.
Most people running these old machines probably won't know or care.
They'll definitely know. Microsoft's last update for Windows 10 will make sure to add as many notices, popups and scary alerts as possible.
And as a result plenty will care, particularly those who aren't tech savvy. If you've got relatives for whom you are their go-to IT person, be prepared.
That's assuming they even read the message and don't just close out of it instantly.
Them: "I keep getting an error message." Me: "What's it say." Them: "I don't remember."
I foresee rise in selfhosted sector because of cheap hardware
Actually happen. An i5 with 4 cores + 8 GB Ram and a 256 GB SSD for something like 100 bucks. Years before we paid this for a raspberry.
Now imagine if PC was invented after "post-PC"/iPhone era and you will need a different OS build for every model and there were "promises" of Windows updates for each machine after which it cannot be longer updated. Also basically computers would have locked bootloaders or void warianty when a system is touched.
I wonder how many phones could be saved from the landfill for the last 10 years if there were supported by Linux.
You can get ARM builds of Linux. I have never tried them so can't speak to how well they work on a phone.
Just running Linux is one thing, but making it working with anything outside the CPU like the motherboard onboard chips and other components is a different task.
Check out a table of what works on one of the Linux distro targetting phones: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
There is no phone with fully working hardware and most barely booting and showing console.
"send to landfill".
No. Just because it can't run newer Windows versions doesn't automatically mean it gets catapulted to the landfill
When I was a residential garbage collector, I saved close to a dozen computers from the landfill that just needed a quick cleaning. A lot of people will get rid of their year old Alienware once it fills with cat hair.
Doesn't mean it won't either - most people won't realise the computer is still usable, either by workarounds or installing a different OS - they'll either trash the PC, recycle or sell it. Or keep using it not caring that its complaining constantly that it's out of support. (And when they do, it's "how can I get rid of this annoying error" not "how can I update this?" - they probably didn't even read the error - and god forbid you manage to do the update, they won't like it if you do)
Hell most people don't even know Linux even exists, and a lot of them couldn't even tell me what their operating system name is.
I've had relatives that try to ask what's going on and say "I have 11" without elaborating that it's windows 11. I remember years ago my aunt said I have version 97. Referring to, at the time the totally unrelated fact that she had Office 97 installed on her winXP machine. Took me ages to work out what she actually meant.
I love me some cheap hardware to put Linux on it. It is a good feeling, plus less ewaste.
Exactly. Just bought a Dell with an i5 9500 for β¬200. That'll be my new home server. I just hope more people get wise to how cheaply you can run a setup with a little bit of getting informed.
Lol ok.
This is getting to Y2K hype levels, and in a similar fashion, will not do anything.
I get Linux people like to fanboy/shit over Windows but surely you're tech literate enough to realize this is making a mountain from a molehill.
Windows hits end of life in 2025 you say? Welp.
At least in the enterprise sector, youβre absolutely right. My companyβs already got a massive list of all of the PCs that need to be discarded due to Win10 EOL. It freakin sucks because theyβre very powerful PCs, but the damn lack of a TPM2.0 chip means they are basically garbage for our uses. And they donβt let employees take anything home :/ what a waste of
You should ask them again. Most companies just fear the ways the storage drive could be restored. Maybe they gave them away without the storage.
A couple of years ago we gave old core2duo out for free. I prepared them with dd'ing only /dev/zero over the storage. Should be enough, but replacing would be better.
When/if this happens, if I got the money, I hope I find someone selling their old desktop to upgrade to 11 so I can get a cheap computer to use as a personal testing grounds server that I don't mind nuking if I accidentally mess up something.
What's the best non win 11 pc we can go for?
Do you have access to businesses upgrading computers or shutting down that division? They tend to have some interesting stuff for playing with on Linux.
Hmm not directly, but I might have some friends who do. Could be a very interesting one
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