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Tbf looking upward at the sky is a lot easier than taking a giant wooden coffin over thousands of miles of water to find an icy hells ape where almost nothing can survive
icy hells ape
Yeah, that's fucking terrifying
that fucking troll on the way to the grey beards, fml.
The advantage of becoming leader of the college, thieve's guild, nightingales, and companions before even bothering to visit Balgruff.
icy hells ape
That's going in my next D&D campaign
tbf, discovering Uranus was a lot less deadly before modern icebreaking ships. Age of Sail ships did not do well down there, and the economic incentives of sealing resulted in quite a lot of casualties back in the day. Doing math and peering through telescopes is much safer.
If our main sensory organs were sound-based or feel-based, we'd probably have discovered a lot of things before planets and stars.
The things that took a while to discover on earth, or that aren't yet fully explored, are largely because it's hard to see them without getting very close, which can be hard.
Building a good telescope might have been hard, but with a telescope you can see things that are millions of km away. But, because of the earth's curvature, you can't see Antarctica until you're practically next to Antarctica. You can't see the bottom of the ocean until you travel to the bottom of the ocean, or at least until you scan it with sound waves which are then converted into something you can see.
Imagine an alien that developed in the water on a planet with sub-surface oceans with ice on top. No real value for eyes, so they're sound / touch based. Picture what it would be like to try to explore the solar system. There's a boundary layer at the top of their "atmosphere" (the top of the ocean) that's solid (ice), beyond that there's some non-liquid extremely sparse stuff, until some point where no sound travels at all and there's nothing to touch.
Reminds me of Rocky from Project Hail Mary (sort of, they didn't live under ocean but under an extremely hostile-to-us atmosphere).
That moment where he learns about relativity is so cute. I should read the book again soon.
“The” Antarctica
I mean, I guess there’s only one
It's only until we discover the second one
Is that where Santa lives?
I assure you that Uranus has been observed many times by many people dating far back into the past, such as by Hipparchos in 2nd Century BC. They conclusively figured out exactly what it was in 1846.
Twenty centuries of wondering what it is, until someone snapped and said “listen, it’s Uranus, are you happy now?”
Well back then, people didn't wear many clothes, so if they bent over you'd see right up their bums.
Well, we currently know better the moon's surface than our oceans' bottom, so...
It's almost like building telescopes is a bit easier than month-long marine expeditions.
Well I guess it's not immediately apparent. But in hindsight, the kind of telescope you need to see the moon or Uranus isn't quite the investment that a dangerous expedition to unknown lands or the bottom of the sea entails. Nor an observatory or space-bourne telescope for that matter. And you can't use a telescope to discover a continent on earth unless you were already in space.
Is this the same "discovered" as America was "discovered" in 1492?
Actually no, I don't think there were any people living in Antarctica.. but I could be wrong.
But were there people living in the southern hemisphere who knew not to go further south because they'd reach the icy land of certain death?
There were probably people who knew that if they went further south they'd not come back. On maps locations like these used to be labeled "Here there be monsters" or something like that.
Probably not. They knew not to go further south because they'd reach the icy ocean of certain death. Because there's no land at 60° South, the winds and currents whip around Antarctica in an uninterrupted circle and there are 100 kph winds and 10+ meter waves most of the time.
See also: "Roaring Forties," "Furious Fifties," and "Screaming Sixties"
This is a very human centric definition of discovery.
Penguins had been living there for millenia beforehand.
I don’t know about you, but I find seeing things to be much easier when there isn’t a planet obscuring it.
Piri reis knew of Antarctica back in the 16th century or something I unno I am no earth scientist
Ooh old cartography I can actually call semi bullshit on this. Basically we knew about a fuckoff big landmass we now call Antarctica (then hypothesized to be Terra Australis) due to the ocean currents around it, but we kept fucking up its location for some reason. Misidentification of Antarctica got so bad that Australia was the most nothern part of it hence why the naming is wrong.
Also a lot of maps made Tierra del Fuego look like it was part of the at the time hypothesized Terra Australas, as I said the misidentification problem got real fucking bad at times. But yeah we knew there was a continent or somethijg down there we just couldnt get to the damned thing because it was too hazardous.
I read about the Antarctic. They kept running into walls of ice before they could find/see it.
But you can see one in your backyard sometimes.
Mars surface is studied better than Earth in 2024. Because there are no oceans or trees on Mars.

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