US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program::undefined

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[–] 155 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If they were truly concerned, they’d start giving it the funding it deserves.

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  • [–] 128 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    They've tried everything except actually funding NASA, and they're all outta ideas.

    NOTE: China WILL overtake NASA, the same way they are dominating the renewable energy sector — because they invest heavily in science, and they do it early. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this shit.

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  • [+] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, it won't. They'll just relocate to China, or maybe a super yacht out in international waters. They'll continue milking every last cent out of the US until it's a dead dried up husk of a nation and then they'll just move to the next one. Their supporters are too stupid to realize where the end of the path they've been told to walk is going to take them, and they'd rather blame anyone else but themselves for all the problems they face. So no, a space race with China won't fix shit.

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    [–] 111 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Gee whiz, maybe we should have been properly funding our space program all of these years instead of wasting it on making the military industrial complex filthy fucking rich and the world less secure overall?

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Especially stupid considering last time they gave the space program appropriate funding, it led to a lot of advancements that the military industrial complex could use.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You make it sound like the military advancements were an unexpected byproduct, as opposed to the real goal.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The goal was optics. Kennedy didn't know what advances would result from Apollo. He wanted to show that the US was better at science and technology than Russia.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The science of putting a ballistic payload anywhere, including heaven.

    The space race was awesome because it let the two countries measure their dicks (specifically their military dicks) without actually obliterating the planet.

    The "for all mankind" angle was a great way to frame things for the population of Earth, for sure. But just like mobile chemical WMD labs in Iraq, sometimes the given justification and actual justification are two different things.

    Don't get me wrong, there absolutely were beneficial optics. Something doesn't have to just be for one thing. But it was always primarily about practical demonstration of weapons capacity under the facade of human exploration.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    People behind the scenes are siphoning NASA space research money and turning it into space profit instead. The growth of private space companies starting in the US is no coincidence. Blame oligarchs for steering the country into a dead end.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    US: continually decides to not fund scientific exploration of space

    Also US: GUYS! BE AFRAID! ANOTHER COUNTRY DID DECIDE TO SPEND MONEY ON IT! NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IF…UM…WELL, I GUESS IF THEY TAKE OVER SPACE…? Or…wait, what are we concerned about? Ah, fuck it. Cut NASA’s budget again. We got genocide to fund and taxes to cut for the wealthy.

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Huh. I wonder if funding NASA better might help, Republicans?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If we fold it into the space force and say it’s for targeting woke weirdos…we’ll get a billion dollars through congress by tomorrow

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    One can only hope.

    The last time that happened, we explored the moon and developed the space shuttle program. We got microchips and memory foam.

    Ideological rivals encourage congress throwing money into big science. Apollo returned $14 on the dollar. It's a good investment.

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  • [+] 28 points 2 years ago (6 children)
  • At least for ISS, the choice is either Musk or Putin.

    I don’t know which one is worse, especially considering Musk is aiding Putin via Starlink in Ukraine.

    Ukraine claims Russian forces using Musk’s Starlink in occupied areas

    But as someone who works in the industry, it is a bleak outlook. NASA absolutely needs more funding for its human spaceflight exploration, Earth Science, robotic exploration, and astronomy/astrophysics.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Have they considered renaming it X and firing all their expert staff to make NASA more profitable?

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is a good thing. Competition with the USSR made NASA what it is.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Who would have imagined that decades of funding cuts and pressure to rely upon Musk would allow another nation to take the lead? (Sarcasm)

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Dang maybe we should take a fraction of the trillions we spend on the military to fund scientific research, and also health and education while we're at it so we'd get even more potential scientists.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I'm sure throwing more money and contracts at Musk and SpaceX is going to help solve the problem any day now. /s

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Export all your technology and jobs to cheaper labour to make more profit. Now you will slowly become bankrupt, as no one can afford the enshitification products and services.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    So they had no issue relying on Russia to service the ISS ever since they shutdown the space shuttle, but now they're afraid of China... doing space science faster?

    Ignoring the fact that this is not even a real concern, maybe don't spend morbillions on free munitions for Israel or Lockheed's next stupid idea.

    They defunded NASA so hard that they started hallucinating about going back to the moon with 15% of the Apollo budget.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Looking at their space station, I think China already has overtaken NASA.

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Anyone concerned that the US will be "overtaken" by anything coming out of China right now needs to go read about what's been happening in China for the last 5 years.

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