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Putin says Russia is close to creating cancer vaccines (www.reuters.com)
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[–] 21 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Given that Russian doctrine is all about disinformation and deflection, is he actually worth listening to until there is something on the table?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    It's a good stance to take with all "scientific breakthrough" articles. Poopsci is notorious for overhyping and just flat out misrepresentation. It's where the notorious "10 more years until fusion" meme came from. The actual engineers working on the project weren't the ones saying that.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    There is never going to be a "cancer vaccine". Cancer isn't a single disease, it is more like a whole category. It is like claiming you are going to develop a vaccine against any and all respiratory diseases or against all kinds of heart problems.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Google "mRNA cancer research"

    We're much closer to a preventative measure than you realize.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    I never said that there won't be any vaccine against individual cancers, just not one vaccine against the whole category. Anyone having an actual vaccine for one of those ready to be released soon would specify details while the general term "cancer vaccine" makes a much better propaganda term because the kind of people who fall for blatant propaganda need it to be simplistic.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Putin says a lot of crazy shit

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Cancer vaccines are already a thing lmao it's not that unusual

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    For Russia? IDK, seems a little unusual, they're not exactly on the cutting edge of medicine. Also, any claim Putin makes should probably be treated with extreme skepticism.

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    • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    does it involve falling out of a window

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I wonder if mRNA vaccine treatment for cancer is what they are referencing.

    From what I was able to understand (and maybe somebody can correct anything I've gotten wrong), the "vaccine" is tailored on a per-individual basis to target key protein markers of a petients particular cancer. This allows the body to identify and start to attack the cancer where previously the immune system would not be able to tell the difference between healthy and cancerous cells.

    Ref: https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2022/mrna-vaccines-to-treat-cancer

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Suuuuure.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Umm excuse me? Why was my comment removed about me rather dying then get injected from a terrorist country that loves killing people by injecting crap into them, or lying about everything they do to make themselves look good.

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    • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Cool

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    [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Is a cancer vaccine even possible as a concept? Would it even be classified as a vaccine since cancer isn't a virus?

    Obviously creating preventative measures for cancer would be amazing but I figured that wasn't even a subject we were broaching since treating it is hard enough

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    Would it even be classified as a vaccine since cancer isn’t a virus?

    Increasingly everything injected gets called that in popular media, it seems.

    The article says he didn't specify what kinds of cancer he's talking about, or any exact timeline. You might be able to prevent a cancer, but all cancers seems pretty impossible, short of hypothetical nanobots that turn you into a disease-immune superhuman.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    It's totally possible and it already exists. You train your immune system (that's the complicated part, you have to feed it some part of cancer cells and make it understan that's the bad guys. Which is very complicated) to fight the cancerous cells.

    Let's not firget there are around 300 families of cancer and there isn't any vaccine against all of them obviously.

    That said, from russia it is obvious bs.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Great, I expect we'll see that any day now. /s

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Given that there are several cancer vaccines currently in human trials, this is not surprising. Most are based in mRNA technology, like the COVID-19 vaccine. Basically, researchers identify the marker proteins of a specific cancer, then create an mRNA vaccine that sensitizes the immune system. Then the immune system attacks cells with that marker. Other advances are methods to take down the "shield" that cancer cells have that hides them from the immune system.

    If a country chooses to ignore patents, they can copy the methods and produce their own vaccines with significantly less investment.

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