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Putin says Russia is close to creating cancer vaccines (www.reuters.com)
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[–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There is never going to be a "cancer vaccine". Cancer isn't a single disease, it is more like a whole category. It is like claiming you are going to develop a vaccine against any and all respiratory diseases or against all kinds of heart problems.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Google "mRNA cancer research"

    We're much closer to a preventative measure than you realize.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    I never said that there won't be any vaccine against individual cancers, just not one vaccine against the whole category. Anyone having an actual vaccine for one of those ready to be released soon would specify details while the general term "cancer vaccine" makes a much better propaganda term because the kind of people who fall for blatant propaganda need it to be simplistic.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's plural in the story

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yes, but it is also not going to be a whole set of vaccines against all kinds of cancers developed in secret and finished and released at the exact same time. That just doesn't make sense for a real set of vaccines, just for one that is invented for propaganda purposes.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    The article says "for individual therapy", so Russia is likely working on the same personalized "vaccines" that other researchers have been working on for quite some time - ones that utilize the individual patient's immune system to attack the specific cancer. Not something that everyone would go out and get immunized against. This isn't mind-blowing, but if you were Putin wouldn't you want to put it some positive news right now too?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's not the way science is done. The researchers need input before they submit for publication as well, and they need to publicise the trial to recruit participants.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    That too, to develop anything actually usable with a confidence that it works you would need fairly large trials.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    I think you misread the story. It says

    "we have come very close to the creation of so-called cancer vaccines and immunomodulatory drugs of a new generation. I hope that soon they will be effectively used as methods of individual therapy"

    I think you misread it as "we will create comprehensive, all-purpose oncovaccines", when in fact it just says "we will create oncovaccines", which is pretty likely given that it's 2024 now. To use your analogy, it's like saying they're close to creating some vaccines for some respiratory viruses, which is plausible.

    I don't get why you say, "any and all... all kinds of cancers developed in secret and finished and released at the exact same time." There is nothing like that in the story – besides which, it just doesn’t make sense for a real set of vaccines.

    I also don't understand why you said they'd be "developed in secret", as there's no reason to think that and it doesn't make sense.

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