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[–] 321 points 2 years ago (11 children)
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    [–] 158 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I've never understood why people have such a hard time with the trolley problem. Obviously, if you pre-emptively move that lone guy over to the rail with the five, you can hit all six at once to maximize your score. Just requires a bit of setup.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Simply hit all six with multi track drifting

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    [–] 87 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Or the trolley potentially carrying dozens of people falls over, killing and injuring more people than would have been otherwise.

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sir the Trolley has derailed in an Ohio neighborhood spilling vinyl chloride everywhere. Lets light it all on fire to get rid of it.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Frame perfect trolley skip

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    I'm always sad when I see this stuff. I know it's all jokes and whatnot, but the entire meme has been born out of a fundamental misunderstanding of the dilemma that the trolley problem is supposed to represent.

    The question isn't, and has never been whether you throw the switch or not. The question is that if you throw the switch, are you responsible for killing the one, or conversely, if you do nothing, are you responsible for killing the others?

    Whether you throw the switch or not is immaterial to the point. Kill one or kill four (or whatever) it doesn't matter. You didn't create that scenario, so by your inaction several people died, are you responsible for their deaths, considering you never put them in that position? Or are you exempt of blame since you basically chose to be an onlooker?

    I don't really blame anyone for not getting it, I sure didn't for a really long time until my friend rephrased the same dilemma in a different way (and omitted the trolley): you go to lunch and have a delicious subway sandwich, but you were not very hungry so you only are half. On your travels from Subway to wherever, you pass by a homeless person begging for food. If you decide to ignore them and keep your food for yourself for later, and that person dies of starvation later that same day because of it, are you responsible for their death?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In addition to philosophical questions, the Trolley Problem is also a good tool in psychology to study human ethical reasoning. It turns out that people's intuitive responses vary quite a lot based on details that seem like they shouldn't make a difference. If I'm remembering correctly, I believe that a lot more people say that they would divert the trolley if they imagine that they were observing the situation from a gantry high above the tracks, rather than in close proximity to the person who would be killed thereby.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    See, it is kind of a Batman philosophy.

    When the Joker presents Batman with a trolley problem [Save Robin or Save Catwoman], Batman always finds a way to circumvent it and save both. Because he is Batman.

    People will always try to get the best out of the situation, even though that isn't what the exercise is about.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    what if the trolley running in 88mph?

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So now you killed the 10 people that were in the train, congrats.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    There's an old Talaxian expression: "When the road before you splits in two, take the third path."

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So the allegory here is if you're faced with a systemic lose-lose situation, fuck with the control system.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think this person knows what "controlled" means.

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