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[–] 6 points 11 hours ago*

I mean, Islam is intrinsically bad for me, just as any religion is, basically (I'm an agnostic atheist [I don't know if a god exists but I reasonaly believe that no, and even if it existed, I still wouldn't adore him], that's why)... But damn, that's wild. He doesn't even know him yet he is calling him "radical islamic" out of nowhere, what a fucking asshole. If I have to guess, he's surely an Incel too.

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  • [–] 12 points 14 hours ago*

    Oh thats funny I heard Tuberville was in the Klan.

    ... we can just play exactly the same game here.

    We in fact should be.

    Fuck decorum, antagonize these idiots untill they fuck up even harder.

    They aren't constrained by facts. We can leave facts to policy, tell everybody Tumortown fucked his sister, why not?

    Just do it via a PAC that implies those things without literally directly saying them.

    Or, 'just asking questions'.

    The rhetorical trick of the paranoid delusional, why not, they love it.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    dont you mean islamaphobic, muslim isnt a race.

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    [–] 6 points 15 hours ago

    When Trump started his political career, it invited everyone to express their racism openly. Prior to that, they were adhering to the Reagan rules, which was instead to use racist dog whistles. (welfare state, street gangs, urban crime, and so on).

    As the MAGA movement formed, open racism became a means of costly signaling. It tells your fellow MAGAs that you are one of them. It also tells the rest of us that you are racist.

    Other signaling includes talking about liberals in the same manner one uses a racial slur, not only regarding them as a monolithic bloc¹ but also accusing them of outrageous wrongs, specifically acts of treason or betrayal of the country. This is much like blood libel, in which the accusations are not meant to be plausible, rather that fellow MAGAs are to pretend they are true. See also They're eating the dogs.

    Anyway, Tuberville had shown time and again in his career that he doesn't care if he looks stupid, especially to anyone outside of MAGA, but that he is a staunch MAGA loyalist who will lick any boot and even sacrifice himself to stay adjacent to power.

    Of course, when Trump or some higher up actually requires that he sacrifice himself his opinion may change. But he's signaling that he's a good, obedient dog to the end.

    I also anticipate that when Trump dies or otherwise MAGA falls out of fashion (it's certainly losing popularity already), Tuberville will try to pretend he was never really into all that MAGA nonsense, and none of his statements and behavior ever happened. And it will be up to the public to make sure neither he, nor any other opportunists like him, ever live it down.

    ¹ Liberals are not a monolithic bloc even if most of them share some common values. The same is true for conservatives, feminists, Methodists or any other significantly large demographic. -- This is why the face-eating leopards always eventually come for your face no matter how true and loyal you are; in Fascism, the set of acceptable identity markers closes like a Fortnite perimeter and shuts you out.

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  • [–] 18 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    There hasn't been a time in my life, and I'm not young anymore, that American conservatism hasn't been a racist movement.

    The most racist element of that movement are at the end of their lives and the racist GOP know that. Unless they can cheat their way into total control, this is their last big push. That's why they aren't hiding it anymore.

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    [–] 14 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Can you sue this motherfucker for defamation?

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    [–] 25 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    to be fair, this had been working for several decades, they're not gonna learn new tricks now

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  • [–] 79 points 1 day ago* (8 children)

    There should be a (heavy) penalty for public figures just saying this kind of made up crap about other people.

    I'm a huge advocate for being able to speak your mind pretty much without any caveats, however objectionable your opinion is, but slander has nothing to do with free speech. This is a hill i'll die on.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    They make it a "free speach" thing like false accusations are covered under that law.

    I can't go around lying to police about how "my neighbor tried to kill me." Ruining their life for fun or profit has consequences, and rightfully so.

    But for some reason, public figures go around talking about how "all trans people are pedophiles" and "immigrants are eating our cats and dogs."

    It does ruin many lives too through deportation, bullying, gossip, and even just small stuff like reducing likelyhood of fucking getting hired at a job.

    But also same figures and journalists, in spite of the victim testimonies and released files, can NOT call a certain someone pedophile without losing their job because "they didn't say allagedly."

    It's like the application of laws and even their morals themselves bend around to unprotect minorities.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    I believe it falls under libel, but that's up to the person being defamed to pursue.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Slander is spoken, libel is written. Might be a little blurred in the age of video and podcasts though. Anyway, slander and libel cases are famously hard to win, because you have to prove the statement was made, the person who made it knew it was false, and that it damaged your reputation. It's also harder to win for public figures, as the increase in general media around them tends to dilute damaging statements.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago*

    I ment it more in the sense that public figures should just straight up be held to a higher standard than Joe Schmoe when it comes to these things.

    the person who made it knew it was false

    Someone in this position should just be expected to know better and if otherswise be expected to prove these kinds of claims.

    Just like I feel they are supposed to divest when they enter public office and be barred from investing in anything while holding any kind of position of power instead of becoming obscenely wealthy in this period of "public service".

    But don't worry, i'm fully aware these things are all naive pipe dreams in this system.

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    [–] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    in my country if a politician posted something like that, would be sued for defamation and will 100% lose in court.

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    [–] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Those old american politicians. Their last recourse for anything is "They're not white and they don't think like me!".

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Then it is up to us pasty white folks who hate fascists and racists; to show that "hey, you might be the same shade of skin colour as me, but your personality and politics are if a shade of bullshit I detest. Tommy Tubervulle is a mongerel

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Yep, I for one am glad that someone smart and with good politics won the senate primary and that it's even better to have him be Egyptian American, considering that's a group that faces discrimination and deserves representation.

    John Adams told one of our earliest friendly nations (Morocco) that our country is just as much for Muslims as it is for Christians, and while I may have a lot of disagreements with the founding fathers I think they nailed that one on the head

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  • [–] 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    honey our president is a terrorist. .... most our government is ran by terrorists.

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  • [–] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child)

    Hypocrisy is lost on MAGA. They believe it's Trump versus Satan, that anyone not them is pure evil by fiat, and therefore any action of their own is justified, even when it is violent or heinous.

    And because their peerless leader is pure good by fiat, his own behaviors that are immoral or incompetent are disregarded as beyond the need for explanation.

    This is common in cults of personality. It's also super fragile if the leader dies without major effort to define an heir in advance.

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  • [–] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    If all they got is racism they don't got much.

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  • lol, Abdul El-sayed for president! Abdul El-sayed 2028!

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  • [–] 110 points 1 day ago (15 children)

    What are they afraid he’ll do?

    • Gut government services
    • Weaken the US military and international relations
    • Torpedo the economy
    • Empower the rich and fascists
    • Implement a national religion
    • Murder women who get abortions
    • Cover for pedos
    • Remove protections for the young, elderly, disabled, and minorities
    • Allow the poisoning and pillaging of the land
    • Gut education
    • Encourage a surveillance state

    Oh, wait that’s MAGA-GOP project 25 shit

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    [–] 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    You jest, but within 5 days after he gets into senate, our government will be using public schools to teach children arabic numerals! /s

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    [–] 9 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    stupid ignorant assholes representing his state of stupid ignorant assholes......

    these politicians don't appear out of nowhere, this is the best alabama can do!

    and also, what kind of stupid fucking name is tommy tuberville? that is a fucking cartoon character name not someone a fucking adult would vote for!

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  • [–] 8 points 23 hours ago

    Extreme Racist: "People from ethnicities I don't like are all 'terrorists'"

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  • [–] 7 points 23 hours ago

    Hey, Tommy has been accused of a lot of things. "Smart" was never one of those.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    TBF, Tommy Tuberville is Olympic-level caliber at saying things that make him look stupid.

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    [–] 26 points 1 day ago

    Are Senators exempt from laws in the US? Given how easily this can be disproved why hasn't he been sued to the point of bankruptcy?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Football coach turned politician, what do you expect?

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    [–] 2 points 18 hours ago

    Dear Senator Tumorville,

    Please describe, in excruciating detail, the things of America that you are afraid will be destroyed. Extreme detail... be specific.

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  • [–] 5 points 23 hours ago

    Yeah, our politicians should have backgrounds that are more related to politics. Like fucking college football coach.

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