▲ 949 ▼ They're not even trying to hide how racist they are (discuss.online) submitted 1 day ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 127 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (1 child) I believe it falls under libel, but that's up to the person being defamed to pursue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children) Slander is spoken, libel is written. Might be a little blurred in the age of video and podcasts though. Anyway, slander and libel cases are famously hard to win, because you have to prove the statement was made, the person who made it knew it was false, and that it damaged your reputation. It's also harder to win for public figures, as the increase in general media around them tends to dilute damaging statements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kevinsky@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago* I ment it more in the sense that public figures should just straight up be held to a higher standard than Joe Schmoe when it comes to these things. the person who made it knew it was false Someone in this position should just be expected to know better and if otherswise be expected to prove these kinds of claims. Just like I feel they are supposed to divest when they enter public office and be barred from investing in anything while holding any kind of position of power instead of becoming obscenely wealthy in this period of "public service". But don't worry, i'm fully aware these things are all naive pipe dreams in this system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Usually it isn't really legally separate anymore and is just defamation regardless of how you do it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Proving that Tommy Tuberville knew, or knows, anything would be pretty much impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Yeah. Dude is a certified bigoted ignorant jackass. The check on guys like him is supposed to be the voting public, but I've seen what makes maga cheer... Part of the reason why I think a democracy where voting rights are "equal' will never produce an effective government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children) Slander is spoken, libel is written. Might be a little blurred in the age of video and podcasts though. Anyway, slander and libel cases are famously hard to win, because you have to prove the statement was made, the person who made it knew it was false, and that it damaged your reputation. It's also harder to win for public figures, as the increase in general media around them tends to dilute damaging statements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kevinsky@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago* I ment it more in the sense that public figures should just straight up be held to a higher standard than Joe Schmoe when it comes to these things. the person who made it knew it was false Someone in this position should just be expected to know better and if otherswise be expected to prove these kinds of claims. Just like I feel they are supposed to divest when they enter public office and be barred from investing in anything while holding any kind of position of power instead of becoming obscenely wealthy in this period of "public service". But don't worry, i'm fully aware these things are all naive pipe dreams in this system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Usually it isn't really legally separate anymore and is just defamation regardless of how you do it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Proving that Tommy Tuberville knew, or knows, anything would be pretty much impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Yeah. Dude is a certified bigoted ignorant jackass. The check on guys like him is supposed to be the voting public, but I've seen what makes maga cheer... Part of the reason why I think a democracy where voting rights are "equal' will never produce an effective government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kevinsky@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago* I ment it more in the sense that public figures should just straight up be held to a higher standard than Joe Schmoe when it comes to these things. the person who made it knew it was false Someone in this position should just be expected to know better and if otherswise be expected to prove these kinds of claims. Just like I feel they are supposed to divest when they enter public office and be barred from investing in anything while holding any kind of position of power instead of becoming obscenely wealthy in this period of "public service". But don't worry, i'm fully aware these things are all naive pipe dreams in this system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Usually it isn't really legally separate anymore and is just defamation regardless of how you do it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Proving that Tommy Tuberville knew, or knows, anything would be pretty much impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Yeah. Dude is a certified bigoted ignorant jackass. The check on guys like him is supposed to be the voting public, but I've seen what makes maga cheer... Part of the reason why I think a democracy where voting rights are "equal' will never produce an effective government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Yeah. Dude is a certified bigoted ignorant jackass. The check on guys like him is supposed to be the voting public, but I've seen what makes maga cheer... Part of the reason why I think a democracy where voting rights are "equal' will never produce an effective government. permalink fedilink source parent