Ye nah, absolutely fuck the meet industry.

At least give the animals a nice time until slaughter. Stress fucks up the meat.

As much as I find chickens, and all avians in general, cute and I find it sickening the way they are treated... I do love eggs, they're tasty, versatile, easy to cook, and unbelievably healthy.

I think the differential we have to identify is one thing, and that is scale.

I am not a vegan, I do not believe it is wrong to consume animals or animal-sourced products, however I do support animal welfare and believe that if we are to raise livestock for consumption they should be treated as the sentient, thinking, feeling creatures that they are and cared for accordingly.

Imagine instead of human and animal rights we just had "sentient rights", for example.

Being able to test for sentience is a topic in and of itself, and out of scope for my argument.

I think there is no harm done in, a hypothetical world where people had the space to do such a thing, raising our own livestock, limited to individual homesteads or the immediate settlement (a local town market, for example).

The line where it becomes unethical is quite obvious really, are the animals treated as living things, or machines to simply fuel and feed to grow them for slaughter and harvest? Yes, in my example of fair treatment the goal may be to raise them for eventual slaughter, but its their lifelong treatment where this applies, not the overall objective.

I hope when I die my corpse is cut up, fried in my own body fat, and fed to pigs.

Fuck factory farms, things dont have to be this way. For this and many other wrongs in our world.

What the fuck. We can do without factory farming!

I disagree. They are very likely the worst of the industries in seeing here. Not even in just one way either.

long-time vegan here, this argument is as old as time.

is it ethical to kill? no.

do humans need meat to survive? no.

is animal agriculture equivalent to slavery? yes.

if you eat meat, deep down inside you know you're supporting: murder, rape, entrapment, torture, and slavery. that includes eggs and milk.

bonus fun fact: pigs are smarter than dogs

Caplyta is an anti-psychotic.

Do you really want to take that from me?!?

Comment section makes me doubt the very obvious-seeming criticism here

Just let the pig live on a nice farm omg.

Don't give industrialized ag a pass. i get why you did, but you can get bacon without Oscar mayer.

I'd give up the bacon and the server farms for affordable consumer grade hardware and tobacco.

Fuck corporations. I buy my pigs from a local farmer and kill them myself. My coworkers complain but I tell them it's much better when it's fresh.