▲ 247 ▼ US returns huge haul of stolen artefacts to Italy (www.bbc.com) submitted 3 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 21 comments fedilink hide all child comments The United States has returned more than 250 ancient artifacts to Italy after police discovered that they had been stolen.
[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 56 points 3 years ago (4 children) BBC trying to ignore the elephant in the room with all of their stolen artefacts permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] LoopingRiver@lemm.ee 36 points 3 years ago (1 child) Q: Why are the pyramids in Egypt? A: Because they were too heavy to move to England permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kirua@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Recycling material is old permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Italy wouldn’t want to start that conversation - the city of Rome has more Egyptian obelisks than Egypt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) The house I'm living in in Germany is built on top of a Roman pottery district. I hope they don't want that one back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Difference is that those Egyptian obelisks were not built in modern day Italy by the Egyptians, but the Roman pottery district was built in modern day Germany by the Romans A lot of the obelisks in European cities were stolen from Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You need to tune your irony detectors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Have you ever heard of Poe's law? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 years ago The art unit of Italy's police force found the items had been looted and sold to US museums and private collectors in the 1990s. Kind of different, a lot of the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 years ago This seems like an excellent time to recommend an excellent podcast: Stuff The British Stole permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LoopingRiver@lemm.ee 36 points 3 years ago (1 child) Q: Why are the pyramids in Egypt? A: Because they were too heavy to move to England permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kirua@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Recycling material is old permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kirua@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Recycling material is old permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Italy wouldn’t want to start that conversation - the city of Rome has more Egyptian obelisks than Egypt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) The house I'm living in in Germany is built on top of a Roman pottery district. I hope they don't want that one back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Difference is that those Egyptian obelisks were not built in modern day Italy by the Egyptians, but the Roman pottery district was built in modern day Germany by the Romans A lot of the obelisks in European cities were stolen from Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You need to tune your irony detectors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Have you ever heard of Poe's law? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) The house I'm living in in Germany is built on top of a Roman pottery district. I hope they don't want that one back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Difference is that those Egyptian obelisks were not built in modern day Italy by the Egyptians, but the Roman pottery district was built in modern day Germany by the Romans A lot of the obelisks in European cities were stolen from Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You need to tune your irony detectors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Have you ever heard of Poe's law? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Difference is that those Egyptian obelisks were not built in modern day Italy by the Egyptians, but the Roman pottery district was built in modern day Germany by the Romans A lot of the obelisks in European cities were stolen from Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You need to tune your irony detectors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Have you ever heard of Poe's law? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You need to tune your irony detectors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Have you ever heard of Poe's law? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Have you ever heard of Poe's law? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 years ago The art unit of Italy's police force found the items had been looted and sold to US museums and private collectors in the 1990s. Kind of different, a lot of the same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 years ago This seems like an excellent time to recommend an excellent podcast: Stuff The British Stole permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) Is there a difference between artefact and artifact? Or is it just another weird thing in the english language? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Especially_the_lies@startrek.website 19 points 3 years ago British vs. American spelling, that's all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Especially_the_lies@startrek.website 19 points 3 years ago British vs. American spelling, that's all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Great. You've done the first world nation justice. Now do your own indigenous nations justice and return all of their stolen artifacts. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Anything won by military action is legitimately owned. Note all of human history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You misspelled land and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Anything won by military action is legitimately owned. Note all of human history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You misspelled land and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to. permalink fedilink source parent
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