▲ 247 ▼ US returns huge haul of stolen artefacts to Italy (www.bbc.com) submitted 3 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 21 comments fedilink hide all child comments The United States has returned more than 250 ancient artifacts to Italy after police discovered that they had been stolen.
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Great. You've done the first world nation justice. Now do your own indigenous nations justice and return all of their stolen artifacts. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Anything won by military action is legitimately owned. Note all of human history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You misspelled land and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Anything won by military action is legitimately owned. Note all of human history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you really pro-colonialism? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JulianRR@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I see it as a realist view. Land has been exchanging hands since Sumer and Elam fought the first war in history. Practically all land on earth has been contested, and isn't inhabited by the original human group to walk to it. It seems odd to draw the line between human nature and colonialism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You could make the same argument about slavery. It's happened for all of human history. So there's no issues with slavery, right? How about rape? No problem with rape? It's been happening since time immemorial. Animals even do it. So rape is fine, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 3 years ago* I would like to note that there's plenty of war loot the US has that we took from dead Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Central Powers, Confederates, etc, and that's pretty dope and they shouldn't have it back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You misspelled land and culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago I doubt that will ever happen, but artifacts in museums can absolutely be given back to indigenous nations without much effort on the museum's part. They just don't want to. permalink fedilink source parent