YouTube disallowing adblockers, Reddit charging for API usage, Twitter blocking non-registered users. These events happen almost at the same time. Is this one of the effects of the tech bubble burst?

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[–] 32 points 3 years ago (3 children)

I think it's a consequence of higher interest rates drying up VC money, meaning that tech companies now have to actually be profitable, rather than just grow.

If the plan was grow now, profit later, then later has come

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Nailed it, investors are demanding profit increases, it's not just interest rates (though they're the main reason) but also the corporate tax cuts in 2018 basically dumped a ton of profit onto corporations because they repatriated all their offshore cash they'd been hoarding.

    That bump lasted 2 years, but the expectation of higher revenue is still there, it doesn't matter if you got lucky at slots last month, if you make your normal salary this month investors will be absolutely pissed.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This sounds too stupid to be real but I was working for one of the largest corporations in the world during this period and we were congratulated on 20% growth even though we did nothing. Of course we didn’t get an extra bonus or anything but they acted like we had an incredible year when we really just had an average year with a massive tax cut.

    Then the next year, our goal was to grow at 20% again and when we missed it by 17%, no one got a bonus or raise.

    This timeline is the stupid one.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    maybe inflation.
    just because U don't see a price tag doesnt mean its not there.
    if you cant see the product, then you are the product!
    the state of wellbeing had never really been that great to start.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    This is also a great example of why higher interest rates aren't automatically a terrible thing. In general, it's probably a good sign for the economy that companies are expected to be profitable. Means resources are being used well. The limitless VC money kinda meant any dumb idea regardless of merit got funding.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I wish we lived in a society where not everything needed to be profitable. People deserve treats and sucks to have things that made our lives better go awake because shareholders demand money

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    Whether we like the ongoing enshittification of Reddit or not, I think it's fair that shareholders expect a return on their investment and they have the right to pressure spez to seek aggressive monetization of the platform.

    That problem wouldn't have existed if Reddit was a non-profit though, like the Wikimedia Foundation.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Venture capital has shifted very quickly from companies HOSTING content to companies SCRAPING content (LLM’s). This means renting compute is now very expensive and moving into the hands of ‘AI’ companies. It’s like trying to fly a plane while monkeys are tearing the wings of.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    As discussed here:

    Honestly they do it so consistently that i’m starting to wonder if they have a choice.

    A common way to do things for tech startups is that they get venture capital funds, use them to run the business at a loss hoping to acquire market dominance, and then use market dominance to turn a profit. I think a lot of tech startups that we know are currently in phase 2, meaning they’ve thrown money out the window for years and are now trying to recoup their investments.

    Also, Reddit wants to go public and Twitter already is. This is relevant because investors are animals, all they see is short-term profit, and they use their voting power to make the company behave that way.

    There’s a common thread between both my theories: it’s shareholder capitalism. I say this as a lifelong shareholder myself, shareholders ruin everything.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    YouTube is blocking adblockers? News to me

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Short answer : Enshittification.

    Long and brilliant explanation here : https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    This concept is also why I’m so hopeful for federated software. The federated model means that there’s no single instance that holds all the power. Many of these instances are run by admins of their own kindness and initiative. And at worst, if any instance were to start being “enshittified,” people could easily move to another instance and continue participating in the greater network.

    Between all of what we’ve seen unfold in the last few months, and even weeks, on Twitter and Reddit, it’s safe to say that “enshittification” could be reaching critical mass. That’s why I came here, after all, and I’m looking forward to seeing this community simply persist here on the web.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Companies expect infinite profit growth

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Capitalism.

    Capitalism is like cutting off your wings because you believe the reduced weight will make you fly higher.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    They've got you - you're addicted and/or locked in and the hastle of moving to alternatives is too great. The short answer is : 'They no longer need to be favorable, they have you, your data, and your friends and it's too much effort to go somewhere else'

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    SOXL - an EFT for US semicondutor companies is doing well.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    i e read this mostly because of AI…

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Well, I hope the Fediverse works out. Otherwise I think were gonna have to go back to hand printing zines.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    You joke, but Reddit did something to piss me off a few months before the current fuckery, and I decided to find an alt and there weren't really any, like I found Mastodon but that's more of a Twitter replacement, never encountered this site while searching. What I ended up doing was downloading a bunch of books and putting them on my phone, then putting the books app where my Apollo app used to be on my homescreen. Now, more often than not, when I go to scroll, I end up just opening a book. I've got a little over 40 on there, they keep my progress, even across devices, and they work when there's no signal so I no longer have to fear public toilets with shitty cell signal lol.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago

    I'm ok with the YouTube one. Twitter dumb. Reddit not that bad but should have just charged people.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 years ago

    We're not people to them, just part of a product. Why do anything more than absolutely necessary to keep the money flowing in? Save a fraction of a penny on bandwidth, earn another fraction by selling more complete data and ad views. Multiply that by the number of users and if enough will tolerate it, somebody at the top can buy a shiny new yacht.

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