There is a game I am considering getting; it has been out for a few months now, and the devs are specifically blocking it from running under proton with a Kernel Level Anticheat which specifically blocks linux.

Folks on the discussion boards made the point tht it is technically possible to install windows for just one steam game, so I am looking for a guide on how to do that?

I've heard that if you don't activate windows, you can still use it, and if you get the LSTC (?) Version of windows, it is not so annoying.

Does anyone have a guide for how to install windows alongside linux for one game?

If we have a discussion in the comments about whether it is tactically appropriate to give money to a game corporation that requires windows, i guess we can, but i would rather learn how to install windows in the least annoying way possible.

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[–] 80 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children)

If you want to dual-boot Windows and Linux, I strongly recommend that you install them on separate devices, and physically disconnect your Linux device. It's a pain in the ass, but Windows Update has a particular appetite for bootloaders and will eventually eat whatever you have on your EFI partition (including the Linux kernel and ramdisk) and replace it with its own.

Otherwise, you can use Chris Titus' winutil script to delay or completely disable updates, and also to debloat the system and disable anti-features like telemetry and the start menu search.

Not sure if this applies to LTSC, but if you can, install a European edition of Windows (-N suffix) and set an EU location and timezone, it will allow you to more easily uninstall components because of EU regulations.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I physically disconnected all drives to force the EFI partition on the actual Windows drive. It still shat all over boot settings after the first major update.

    Someone recommended I try rEFInd and it's been great. No update has forced me back into the UEFI to set boot order since.

    Might be an ASUS MB thing, I never figured it out or bothered afterwards.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    Agreeing with others that grub on separate device from windows then just register windows boot in grub and point bios to grub.

    Windows, for all its fuckery, doesn't screw with that of which it has no awareness.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I can confirm you only need to physically disconnect the non-windows target drive during installation, and as long as you offline the remaining drives after connecting them, windows and other drives will be fine with updates (THIS is the most important part, do it in Disk Management on first boot into windows).

    I've run two Windows instances for years, through multiple OS major updates and never had problems with this setup, before doing the offline drive change to each of them, they would both fuck over each other (I had one for work and one for personal).

    One thing I did that may be necessary, is I didn't let a boot loader handle the dual boot, I only used BIOS to manage changing the boot target when switching over - I was doing dual windows boots at the time so this may actually be fine with grub, so ymmv on that front.

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    [–] 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    What is the game? If the company hates you so much to do this, you probably shouldn't support them.

    Friends don't let friends play windows.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    LTSC is fine, and you can just use massgrave.dev to activate it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    Get the Windows 11 IoT LTSC specifically. IoT is better according to nassgrave, and Windows 11 so you get good compatibility with new games. Not much debloating is needed, just use WinUtil by CTT and tweak/disable shit.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago

    If you want to install Windows on another drive and quite rightly don't want to pay MS for the privilege, then massgrave is your friend.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Put the installer on a USB, remove your Linux drive (because you should install it on a separate drive, and Microsoft will infect your boot partition otherwise), and run it. That’s it.

    Then follow the instructions on massgrave to activate it.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I've had Windows cause enough problems with wrecking my Linux boot partition to not want to try this again. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It works fine most of the time. But I'm not willing to risk that rare occasion when windows renders my Linux drive unbootable. Maybe there's a way to fix the boot partition and I haven't figured it out. But restoring my whole system is so annoying that I wouldn't risk it.

    So i would recommend that the best option is to consider just ignoring that game and playing the endless number of great games out there that run on Linux already.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I was recommended rEFInd and it's worked wonders. Never had another boot issue since, and I did like you: physically disconnected all drives except the one I wanted Windows on. Still messed up my boot settings.

    Recommend you give it a try if you dare go again.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Look inside yourself and ask if you really like to play this game that much. Maybe wait a for more weeks and see if your feeling stays the same.

    In my experience I can say that these kinds of urges pass away after a while.

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    If you must run Windows, do it on a completely separate device if you can. That way your one game that's DRM-locked to Windows can stay on its own machine without Windows getting hostile to your Linux install like in a dual-boot.

    If you don't have/can't obtain a separate device for installing Windows on and you must dual-boot, the safest way to do that is to disconnect your Linux drive(s), install Windows on its own fresh drive so it can have its own boot partition and its own bootloader, reconnect your Linux drive(s) after your Windows drive is finished setting up and set your EFI boot order to point to your Linux drive, and then set your Linux bootloader, usually GRUB, to query your Windows drive and let you pick it to boot from, that way hopefully Windows stays on its own drive and its own boot partition and doesn't try to screw over your Linux drive and its boot partition.

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    If you dual boot, install on a separate dedicated drive of possible.

    Saves a lot of headache with windows boot part, especially since you're installing after already having Linux installed.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    the safest fastest but expensive way, get a second drive that's big enough to run windows and your game. disable the drive from BIOS boot options and add an entry to your bootloader. i salvaged an old 512gb sata to do this for firmware/some legal document things that only work on Windows.

    there's vfio but i believe you still need two video cards to get that working, one for the host one for the vm.

    just never trust windows on your main boot drive that only leads to you having to recover your bootloader when a windows update replaces it. and this is not a question of if they will it is a question of when.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    You can do one of three, for different levels of ease and performance:

    1. Install boxes/gnome-boxes, install the windows os on a virtual machine. Just press the plus to choose an iso file and go.
    2. If you have an extra hard drive, you can install windows on that hard drive, and have to set up grub to recognise it.
    3. Change the partition size of your hd using a live cd/usb version of Linux (you can't change partition size on partitions that are in use) , make a new partition and install windows on that partition. Add this new OS to grub.

    You will need to do further research on some of the stuff I said, but I gave you the correct things to look up.

    They go down in order of difficulty. Boxes will be less efficient but easiest. The other two have the same efficiency, but the second is a bit more challenging

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I used to dualboot for the same situation, just exam software instead of game. You can find entire video tutorials online for dualbooting.

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    [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I have a windows install on a USB hard-drive. It's not fast but that might not be a problem if you use a fast USB storage. I just plug it in and boot from it via UEFI.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    This is what I do, just a spare nvme drive thrown in an external enclosure. Rufus has an option called “windows to go” that installs the iso as opposed to making a bootable installer, and it gives an option to block Windows from overwriting local disks to avoid the boot loader issues too. Has worked quite well up until a point recently where it just refused to boot anymore with an unhelpful error despite not having been touched in months. No updates or changes since it worked before. Good ol windows…

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Maybe what you want to hear, but I once bought Marathon because it wasn't declared that GNU/Linux is blocked again, like Destiny 2 was. I requested a refund on Steam and 30 minutes later was granted. It's not worth the hassle for one game, IMO.

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    [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I recently did this, using a VM with GPU passthrough. This meant my Linux OS couldn't use the GPU while it was active. It's a pain in the ass, but it technically works. I won't describe how to do it, because there are good guides online.

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    [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I am not an expert on Windows game rootkits (or Windows in general...), but would it perhaps run in a VM?
    At least then you wouldn't have to do a "real" install...

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Nah, that used to be a solution a few years back if you had the patience to setup GPU-passthrough with a single or two GPUs. But these anticheat rootkits now detect a running VM and deny you service either way.

    Dualbooting Windows 10 LTSC with massgrave activation seems to be the best option for now if you really nee..want a Windows installation with GPU acceleration. For Nongaming/Rendering tasks: Winboat.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Ugh, I feel you on this. Can't help unfortunately because I just bit the bullet and dual boot, there's just one or two games that don't work well for me on Linux. Best of luck

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Kinda hijacking, pardon me, but is there anyone reading who'd be willing to explain the specifics of "Microsoft eats boot sectors" or direct me to some documents?

    I have a laptop with Microsoft / Linux partitioned on a single internal drive dual booting between them and have never... well never known that I had such an issue, but I've broken it in a lot of creative ways, and maybe this Microsoft greedy boot behavior would inform some of it and help me make it smoother

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    If you are willing to tinker a bit and troubleshoot there is a way to passthrough a single GPU to a VM with minimal overhead. Took me a while to get working and requires a second device (laptop, phone) for the install. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTWf5D092VY

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