LoglineAn accident while investigating a time portal sends Ensigns Beckett Mariner and Bradward Boimler through time from the 24th century, and Captain Pike and his crew must get them back where they belong before they can alter the timeline.

Written by Kathryn Lyn & Bill Wolkoff

Directed by Jonathan Frakes

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Boimler exclaiming “RIKER” as he hopped on the saddle had me howling. Frakes is such a sport!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I saw somewhere that the actor improved that line which means he blurted it out with Riker standing right there which feels totally in line with the tone of the episode they were shooting. It's funny to me on so many levels.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    That honestly makes it’s so much better. I’d love to see a behind the scenes for this episode!

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  • Definitely watch the Ready Room episode. They talk about a lot of this. I remember another interview where Tawnie Newsom, I think, talks about how Frakes, Quaid, and her just kinda took over the set because they were all nerding out, being silly, and improv-ing a bunch because that's what they do on LDS.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Sooooo many people that never watched Lower Decks are going to be asking why there was a koala in the opening and I'm delighted by that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The danger with these "very special fun episodes" is that they can be confined to being just that. But what elevated this episode is how it used the time travel/crossover conceit to foreshadow, progress and pay off SNW character arcs, including Chapel and Spock's ultimately doomed relationship (something that I've previously said could be incredibly poignant, if handled right), Number One's legacy, and the way Pike confronts his fate. I hope the musical episode does the same.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    They also tied in to Tendi's story on LD (her constant reminding to people that Orions have a culture far beyond pirating), even though we didn't see her in Live Action.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Are Orions now the designated species for calling out how essentialized Star Trek aliens tend to be? Because we have D'vana Tendi, the somewhat obscure Ensign Harral from Discovery, and now the crew of the D'var. You can argue the last one's just an extension of Tendi's character arc, but still, that's three series that have touched on this.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago*

    TBH I think TNG did this very well with the Klingons (depending on who was writing the episode, of course). Like, some Klingons were Real Klingons(tm) but many others only gave lip service to those ideals and were actually as sneaky and cowardly as any other race. I think a lot of Worf's inner conflict came from realizing and processing that fact.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I cannot believe they had Boimler and Mariner move like physical cartoon characters and pulled it off that well, holy shit. We absolutely lost it when Boimler was tangled in the control panel

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    And him doing his walk away from Una the second time. And so many of Tawnie's mannerisms like in the shuttle where she kinda strikes a pose before getting caught. And Quaid's mannerisms and screaming with Spock in the lab.

    Those two really worked to make realistic versions of the silliness they have in LDS and it was magnificent. I caught so much more on second watch.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Poor Christine Chapel! Now she knows what the audience has always known: her relationship with Spock is ultimately doomed. Plus a delightful mix of guilt and fear that she could unwittingly cause Spock to never measure up to the vague but crucial future that Boimler mentioned to her in the turbolift, simply by trying to make the two of them happy.

    That suuuuuucks.

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  • OMG! They managed to make that scene just so hilarious and poignant at the same time. Watching her facial expressions as she realizes what Boimler is telling her made me want to just scream at him to shut the fuck up and slap the shit out of him...but he's just being dear sweet clueless Boimey. :(

    Theme-wise, I think they're setting up a comparison between Pike knowing his doom and Christine/Spock knowing their relationship is doomed. Knowing that, what do you do in the meantime?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So Boimler inadvertently causes Nurse Chapel to end her relationship with Spock and encourage him to go back to T'Pring?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Predestination paradox. In fact the entire thing is likely a predestinaiton paradox. "Activated 120 years ago", which is caused by the imager at "now"; the reason why the two can go back home is because Tendi told them about the version according to Orion and mentioned her great-grandma being the discoverer, which is what let the past Orion to recognize the truth and probably themselves assigned it to Tendi's great-grandma?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Loved having a Sunday morning cartoon 🖖

    This episode was way better than it needed to be. I was genuinely moved seeing Una's reaction to the knowledge of her being the "poster girl", as well as the reaction of the Orion captain at the end.

    Seeing Boimler and Mariner in this context really drives home how much Lower Decks is essentially "what if Trekkies could serve in Star Fleet" and it worked so well!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Especially the poster girl part being how she (and her lawyer) presented her self in the trial in ep2

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Yes exactly! To Boimler it was a major and inspiring story out of history, but to Una it was a personal moment that happened only recently. Imagine being told something you did that you thought was relatively minor (and over) would inspire generations of people in the years to come. Her reaction was perfect.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm still giddy about this episode. Possibly the best thing I've ever seen.

    One thing I noticed particularly in this episode is how respectful both SNW and LD are of canon and fandom in general - the bit about not all Orions being pirates, for example. I know it originates w/Tendi from Lower Decks, but just in the context of this episode they take the one-dimensional nature of the Orions from TOS, poke a little fun at it, but then make it about the bias that the Federation/Star Fleet has against a culture they really don't understand. The SNW writers effortlessly take what could be considered a flaw or one-dimensional writing from TOS and actually use it to flesh out the ST universe, all while telling a great story.

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    [–] [S] 2 points 3 years ago

    My expectations for this one were high, but I'm really impressed with how well they pulled it off. Tawny Newsome and Jack Quaid did a great job of dialing their performances back just enough, and the SNW cast went just a little bit broader.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago*

    This episode is one of the best episodes in the modern era of Trek, it's lighthearted it's funny it celebrates Trek and it's done so tastefully that I genuinely have nothing bad to say about it. It reminds me of Trials and Tribble-ations.

    Plus that line at the end where they tell Una ad astra per aspera and that's why boimler joined Starfleet is just the right kind of emotions.

    Honestly, they smashed it in this episode and ofc the 2d animated intro was chefs kiss.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    My favourite line in the whole thing is right at the end when Commander Jack Ransom (played by Jerry O'Connell) walks past the poster of Lieutenant commander Una Chin-Riley (played by Rebecca Romjin) and calls her "The hottest first officer in Starfleet history."

    For those who don't know, the Jerry O'Connell and Rebecca Romjin are married to each other.

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  • Frakes is, in addition to an iconic Actor, the best Trek Director of the modern age. 11/10.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I wonder how many times crew get blackout/asleep and for a joke their mates put them in the holodeck for "computer end programme" to be a wake up meme.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    They NAILED it. They, somehow, took the loving but self aware fan service of lower decks and jammed it into SNW which has been the most consistent reboot back to the core of this series. This was absolutely some of the best show writing I've seen in a very long time.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago*

    An extremely fun episode, had a stupid grin on my face right from the opening.

    One thing that jumped out at me was the adjectives used: "scientists, explorers, adventurers." The episode reinforced what Starfleet as an organization and Trek as a concept are all about.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Thoughts and observations as I watched over at the "other place", special Saturday night/early Sunday morning edition:

    • AHHHHH, WE'RE DOING THIS ON A SATURDAY!
    • AHHHHH, WE'RE GETTING THE CROSSOVER!
    • AHHHHH, A CROSSOVER BETWEEN A CARTOON COMEDY AND A LIVE ACTION DRAMA!
    • AHHHHH, IN GENERAL!
    • First off, that they have "Those Old Scientists" as the title is (chef's kiss).
    • Previously: Nyota had a really bad day, La'An got a bad case of Kirk hotness, and Chapel/Spock had a bad case of hotness for each other
    • OH GOD WE'RE STARTING ANIMATED
    • "Numero Una"
    • Tendi would like to remind you all that the Orions have a rich and varied history.
    • "You guys look... very realistic."
    • AHHHH, ANIMATED OPENING CREDITS!
    • Hahaha, the thing that eats the Ceritos Nacelle!
    • AHHHH, THE KOALA AT THE END OF THE CREDITS! WHY IS IT SMILING, WHAT DOES IT KNOW!?!?
    • "But flipping it open is the best part"
    • "Computer, end program."
    • "Worf's honor." DANGIT!
    • I wonder if Frakes showed Quaid how to properly do a Riker maneuver
    • "You just... laughed."
    • Ah, we're tying in with what Tendi said.
    • Boimler is a toddler knocking over furniture.
    • "We have jetpacks now"
    • Pike's birthday is a holiday... CRAP!
    • Boimler freaking out over the fact he made Spock laugh is such a Boimler thing.
    • Hey, a reference to his sehlat!
    • I like how they are using this episode to also move the other plotlines forward.
    • HE MENTIONED PIKE'S REALLY GREAT HAIR
    • Triticale, as opposed to Quadritriticale.
    • I totally saw Mariner coming.
    • Dystopian San Francisco!
    • "Have you noticed their references are weirdly specific?"
    • "Hot Spock agrees with me"
    • "It's a poster that is pinned up"
    • I feel like Tawny herself probably demanded a scene with Uhura
    • Ah, there's the Boimler scream!
    • "Holy Q!"
    • "They had a Trelane thing going on."
    • "He had to contour the hell out of the jawline"
    • "Oh, I already know." Hahaha, they finally got out-future knowledged.
    • Oh god, are they going to steal a piece of an NX?
    • Oh, just a piece of it in the Enterprise.
    • The "Mistress of the Winter Constellations" strikes again!
    • Of course Ransom calls Una the hottest first officer in starfleet history.
    • Hahaha, 2D animation Enterprise crew because they are drunk!
    • All-time classic.
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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    That was amazing, on par with Trials and Tribble-ations for a crossover. Loved how well they integrated Boimler and Mariner without losing any of the character as LD has presented them.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    It was ... the best of both worlds.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This was incredible and everything I could have hoped that it would be. 11/10, no notes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    The only thing I wished was for the Enterprise crew to have been in TAS style art animation at the end. But yeah. Great show!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I loved all of it! I liked how they had fun with the crew being in the 2D Lower Decks style at the end, poking fun at it with the dialogue. Then they blamed it on the drinks, so it wasn't really a fourth wall break.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Still kind of hoping that one year they do a "Trials and Tribble-Ations" tribute episode where they go back to the Enterprise during TAS and splice in the LD guys in in the TAS style.

    They could call it "Those Animated Scientists"

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I'm seeing lots of positivity here, so I'll be the boring one. I enjoyed it but they didn't quite land it for me. Things that would have been funny in an out-and-out sitcom felt wrong in the context of a 'serious' Trek show. For example, Mariner and Boimler having a really inappropriate discussion about how hot Spock was, while Spock was right there, during a senior staff meeting - it was a bit too jarring for me. You kind of got the feeling the 23rd century officers were all left wondering why 24th century Starfleet is so unprofessional. I think they got this the wrong way round by making it a SNW episode instead of a Lower Decks episode.

    Separately though, given that we know Spock and Chapel don't make it, I like that in the two episodes since they got together they have hinted at two separate reasons why they might split up: first the possiblity it's triggered by them having different attitudes to reporting the relationship to Starfleet, and now Chapel's Boimler-induced insecurities about whether she might hold Spock back from doing something great with his life.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I think Mariner was just in true form. Nonchalant and flippant. The cultural differences are huge especially the technology they've deployed 130 years since the NCC-1701. The way Mariner casually suggests just making more of the element like it's getting a glass of water from the replicator and Boimler gives her a hard side-eye gives you an idea just how different their day to day lives are. Boimler was able to reconfigure the ship and navigate it on his own because the Enterprise is just so archaic by comparison to the Cerritos.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So many people were ragging on this idea. I think the episode firmly shut them up. This was top notch Trek! Fantastic from start to finish. I want more! Now they're complaining about the upcoming musical episode? Haters gonna hate I guess.

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