cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/8955441

He was a coomer, Ben Franklin?

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[–] 117 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I mean, set aside the slavery politics for just a minute, because that's low hanging fruit.

Imagine showing Thomas Jefferson the Hoover Dam. Imagine introducing Thomas Paine to the internet. Imagine George Washington's face illuminated by a mushroom cloud. How fucking dumb do you think Benedict Arnold would feel if you dropped him onto the deck of a US Aircraft Carrier. How flabbergasted would James Madison feel if you explained that we literally call it the "White House", because we never changed the color after the British burned it down. What do you think Patrick Henry would have to say about Social Security?

FFS,

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Thomas Paine is the only one I could tolerate hanging out with. The rest are getting pushed back into the time machine and sent to the Devonian period.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The rest are getting pushed back into the time machine and sent to the Devonian period.

    Great. Now the sudden appearance of invasive modern bacteria just caused a mass extinction in the Devonian, the entire history of life on earth is changed, and the dominant life form is an amphibian of roughly chimpanzee intelligence.

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    [–] 47 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    He would be very interested in the very mature milf and gilf sections we have available.

    My favorite writing from any founding father is Ben Franklin writing to a younger friend urging them to take an older mistress. My man had an 8 point presentation on the virtues of fucking older ladies. My favorite saying from this is " In the dark, all cats are grey".

    "Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds are better stored with Observations; their conversation is more improving, and more lastingly agreeable. "

    "Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Man, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an Old Woman who is not a good Woman. "

    "Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience. "

    "Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be inclined to excuse an old Woman, who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his manners by her good Councils, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes. "

    "Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part. The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement. "

    "Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her Life unhappy. "

    "Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making an old Woman happy."

    "8th & lastly. They are so grateful!!!"

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    New headcannon: that's the ORIGIN of the saying, so anyone who uses it owes a piece of their vocabulary to Benny F's GILF fetish 😄

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    [–] 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Imagine looking up to slavers from hundreds of years ago as your moral compass 🤮

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (23 children)

    Ben Franklin owned seven slaves early in his life, but later got rid of them, became an outspoken critic of slavery, and worked toward its abolition.

    Also, slavery or not, the point still stands. They wouldn't recognize America today and would be horrified.

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    [–] 34 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    They would be horrified about the lack of slavery, women having rights, that we didn't completely wipe out the natives and stuff like that the founders were monsters.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Benjamin Franklin is, by far, one of the most interesting figures in American history. He's one of my favorite historical people to read about because every time he's mentioned, you end up learning something fascinating about him.

    I recently had a discussion with someone on Lemmy who absolutely hated Benjamin Franklin solely because he owned slaves early in his life.

    Nothing else mattered to him. It didn't matter that Franklin later became one of the earliest and most outspoken abolitionists in American history, serving as president of the Philadelphia Abolitionist Society for years and advocating publicly for the abolition of slavery.

    I completely condemn the fact that Franklin owned slaves. Slavery is morally reprehensible and indefensible. At the same time, I don't believe that should prevent us from recognizing Franklin as one of the most fascinating and consequential figures in American history. His life demonstrates that people can hold deeply immoral beliefs, later reject them, and spend years working to undo the injustice they once accepted.

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    [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Sure the would be mortified. Woman that can vote and have rights? The ban of slavery caught up to them in the end? An orange president?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    The ban of slavery caught up to them in the end?

    Though Ben Franklin owned a few slaves when he was young, he later gave them up and became an outspoken abolitionist. I don't think he'd be too mortified to find out slavery had been ended.

    He might be mortified to find out that prisoners can still be enslaved, and that the US has a more people incarcerated than any other nation in history. Both by percentage of population and by absolute number. "Land of the free", am I right?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    He's definitely watching the GILF category.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago*

    "C'mon, Franklin, we're going to Delaware."

    "Why should I?"

    "For the drinking and the whoring."

    Ben immediately stands up "Alright, boys, we got no time to spare! We gotta get to Delaware!"

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think they'd be horrified women and black people can vote if anything. Oh and the state imposes some taxes on the rich; I bet that'd horrify them too.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Thomas Jefferson resigned as Secretary of State due to the amount of corruption in government. I guarantee they wouldn’t be surprised. I would hope they would feel shame for not writing the constitution better.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    wait till he learns about trans women

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    They would be deeply confused by our seeming hatred for France, then be deeply confused why America is fucking around in other countries.

    Thomas Paine might be a little happy about a few things though. Hard to tell.

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    [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    The real Ben Franklin if time travel was invented “JFC another one idk fuck off back to your OWN TIME, MAYBE?!”

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    I feel like virtually all of The Founding Fathers would have definitely moved to ban it except Ben Franklin, who would have vehemently opposed them.

    This kinda supports but also detracts from the implications that follow from the OOP:

    • The Founding Fathers would probably have largely agreed that such things should be banned.

    • Why should we fawn over all of the opinions of people two centuries dead? Surely they got some things right and some things wrong, yes?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Prehistoric man would be straight up FLUMMOXED, by a lunchable.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Franklin strikes me as a ThisVid type of guy. There's fucking weird stuff on there, and he'd be so fucking into it

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  • Xhamster isn't American.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Fuck Madison Cawthorn. Let that piece of shit slide into obscurity.

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