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[–] 139 points 2 months ago

OpenAI is doing a much better job than China at getting people to hate AI.

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  • [–] 109 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Im not against data centers, that's mostly where the internet runs from. Im against AI data centers though

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I worry this may be a real problem though because there is not any real distinction in the messaging.

    I work in a small data center. Its a 50x100 ft or so room with a few dozen racks of servers in a non descript old telco building. Not a giant water and energy sucking monster.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    A bunch of the anti-data center propaganda on social media doesn't make this distinction and it makes it sound like they don't know what tf they're talking about, especially given that they're posting it on a platform powered by data centers and pretty much every internet-based service they use goes through a data center. Even well known leftist accounts are doing this, and they need to get better about clarifying their message because the way they're promoting it right now makes everyone associated with them look stupid

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    [–] 83 points 2 months ago (35 children)

    China didn't attack Iran and send global oil prices sky high. China doesn't bully my government into bad defence contracts.

    I'm so tired of racist fear mongering about China. They aren't a perfect country, but the suggestion of the United States judging any other nation right now is mind boggling.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    China didn't continually insist Iran was two weeks away from a nuclear weapon for five decades, nor did they bomb and kill the religious leader that expressly declared nuclear and chemical weapons are against God and Islam.

    Believing American narratives at face value is an unhinged reality to live in.

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    [–] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Lol. It's obviously a consortium of trans, immigrants and antifa that are behind it. While Michelle Obama and Soros are funding the operation.

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    [–] 33 points 1 month ago

    Yeah they're turning Americans against data centers by describing them objectively, how insidious...

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    The rage against Data Centers must be because of filthy foreigners, it couldn't possibly be because of how the 100% American billionaries and their bought and paid for 100% American politicians are imposing on everybody by hook and by crook something which for everybody but said billionaires is a net bad thing (since for everybody but those capturing the profits of Data Centers, the nasty side effects of them vastly exceed the minuscule benefits from them which are nothing more than a handful of new jobs per Data Center).

    "Always blame foreigners" is a core practice American political discourse, quite independly of which side of the Power Duopoly one is aligned with, probably because it perfectly dovetails with the American Exceptionalism the locals are indictrinated in their whole lives.

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    [+] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Any of you read the article that OpenAI wrote? Here's a quote: "The operation sought to exploit and amplify existing public concerns about energy prices and local impacts of data center development, but we found no evidence of meaningful breakout beyond its own activity ." So it's less "China is making you hate data centers" and more "they tried but it didn't work".

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    [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    Easy to do when people don't fucking want them, and more specifically, they do not add any value to ppls lives, they only take to away. If only we have reps who represented anything but their own self interests.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    More BS pre-IPO marketing PR, look our tech is so dangerous and scary China is trying to shut it down.

    Even though China is basically in the lead with open weight models that use less energy to run (MoE) and cost (probably way) less than a tenth as much to train for around 90%+ the effectiveness of frontier models.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    They absolutely do this but it doesn't mean anti datacenter people are wrong. Russia, China, Iran all use amplification techniques to destabilize other countries. You don't need a complex propaganda plan when you can just amplify every divisive topic and get brexit.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    The profound xenophobia of westerners mean they don't even hesitate to make assertions about "enemy" countries despite the fact they have zero evidence, not even bad evidence, other than their own gut feelings of hostility. What evidence do they have that china "absolutely attempts to turn Americans against Data centers"? None at all, but that doesn't matter, it's a negative accusation against a non western nation. What evidence do they have that Iran uses "amplification techniques" to destabilize the West? Well it just feels true, after all, they are coniving foreigners, and surely they must be responsible for the political issues in the West, as the West is too superior to be the source of its own problems.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    chatgpt is shitting on americans· how are people not supposed to turn on those grippers?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    "Our PS2 is so powerful Iraq is building WMDs with it!"

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    China is not only pro-AI but demonstrably aided in electing the pro-AI GOP in the USA 2024 election cycle.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Because there is no Chinese campaign against data centers. China was simply pointing out the environmental and economic impacts data centers have on the areas around them.

    Who is saying data centers are okay? They are not. And I do not even have any issue with LLM usage, yet I still recognize that data centers are incredibly resource-intensive and can have significant impacts on the communities that host them.

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Next after this post about chineese users,

    A story about a man who says theres something on his shirt, is he gullible enough to fall for it?

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