Taiwan asserted its sovereignty Saturday after Donald Trump warned against Taiwanese self-determination following the American leader’s two-day summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing.

Taiwan “is a sovereign and independent democratic nation, and is not subordinate to the People’s Republic of China,” Taiwan’s foreign ministry said in a statement.

The ministry’s remarks come as a swift rebuke against Trump, who said Friday that he was “not looking to have somebody go independent” when asked about whether the U.S. would come to Taiwan’s rescue in the event of an invasion by China.

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 72 points 3 months ago (7 children)

In the latest episode of Trump leaving his allies out to dry, it looks like Trump is trying to trade Taiwan to China for Somethingᵀᴹ

I genuinely feel terrible for Taiwan that they're stuck in this horrid position of being constantly threatened by China for merely existing, and essentially having to bet on the global value of TSMC to keep the otherwise apathetic US around.

It shouldn't have to be that way, and its abhorrent that it is.

I'm thankful that the EU managed to (mostly) step in for Ukraine, but Taiwan is simply too far away for Europe to properly defend - so if the US doesn't stand up, I doubt anybody will.

  • source
  • hideshow 14 child comments
  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    It's also the latest example that shows that Trump can only remember the conversation from the last person he talked to. If he visited Taiwan, immediately afterwards he would be saying the exact opposite. He's a fucking moron and has no capacity for self-thought in any way. He just blindly restates what somebody told him.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Yep, Xi manipulated rump and now US isn’t going to protect Taiwan anymore. WTF

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    If I were Taiwan, I'd make sure to have a deadman's switch on TSMC - so if China every tried to take it, the whole thing would suddenly become very worthless to them.

    And I'd make sure everybody in the room could hear that, so the world knows what they'd be losing if China ever went for it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    China doesn't want TSMC, they want the land.

    *What's going on here with the downvotes? They've wanted Taiwan decades before TSMC even existed, let alone rose to any prominence. A whole bunch of retconing going on here.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They want TSMC too. Intel isn’t up to taking over for them so having TSMC would mean having significant control over the global economy.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
  • load more comments (3 replies)
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Keep in mind taiwan is staunchly conservative.

    Taiwan has been backing trump and I’m even suspecting taking part in the voting influence as they really believed he was the only president capable of looking after them and confronting China. They threw all their bets at him out of fear of China.

    If you talked to anyone from taiwan in the past several years they couldn’t lick his ass enough. Even if you were to tell them bold faced he’s a racist pedo and they wouldn’t shut up about the US protecting their country and who cares if he raped little girls and send brown people to die so long as they are protected by him.

    Take it from someone who’s been talking to conservative relatives in taiwan. It’s been like screaming into the wind. And they even threatened me in 2023 that every country is going conservative and I should just watch out. And they did this with much smirking. They are having their own leapard ate my face moment.

    I feel bad for them in the same way I feel bad for MAGAs for voting for him while ignoring all the blatant racism.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 58 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well the predictions were right, Xi played Trump like a fiddle.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    You can't just bully weaker Island nations near your coast just because their's a history of political bad blood.

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Cuba would enter the chat, but they have no electricity to log in with, because of the recent escalation of the US bullying them.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Cool so we agree that PRC and USA are both atrociously vile countries that shouldn't be emulated? Right? Right??

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Every country still trying to do colonialism and oppression in 2026 is vile and atrocious. That's not even a real question.

    What is it with Lemmy and the fucking purity tests? Folks all looking for some kind of a gotcha moment.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Magatards running our government better get their heads out of their ass and get this moron out of office. China retaking Taiwan would put us at their mercy for the next 100 years or more.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Considering 2027 is a likely time for China to attack, it's rather problematic that Trump is in charge. I rather like Taiwan being an independent nation

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    China’s been a year away from attacking Taiwan for as long as:

    • Iran’s been six months from building a nuclear weapon
    • nuclear fusion reactors have been 30 years away
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    The 2027 date comes from a report to congress in 2021 so it's not like it's always been a year away. It was also an estimate for the timescale for China to build up the military capacity to be able to annex Taiwan, AFAIK there's never been an official analysis that they actually would pull the trigger on an invasion on that timescale or any other.

    The issue is that if the analysis is correct and if they think whoever comes after Trump would be more likely to defend Taiwan than Trump is then there's an incentive to go while Trump is still president which pretty much would mean striking as soon as they had the capability, I.e. in 2027.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If China wanted to invade they could do it already and there would be fuck all the states could do about it. Iran is the writing on the wall.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    Kind of... the issue is conflicts like this are very costly and damaging to the economy.

    Thankfully so far China has behaved a bit more rationally than belligerent states like the USA and Russia who are willing to do considerable damage to their own and world economies in an attempt to strengthen their military position. Which makes little sense in a mostly peaceful era. Economic and diplomatic power are more important in the long term, and they're trading that away.

    So I predict they will not do it even though you're right that they theoretically could because the smart move is to keep growing your power base. China could be in a class of its own someday if they are smart enough, and then they'll be able to force Taiwanese submission without even invading.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    And just yesterday they were all living up trumps ass for recognizing them as a sovereign nation back since 2016 actually believing the was going to treat them “better than any Democrat “. Talking to anyone actually in Taiwan would be maga level to talk to about trump regarding him being a pedophile.

    Now trump showed them his real colors.

    Yeah. Maybe don’t back a pedo when it’s been told to you. He ain’t got your back.

  • source
  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I think if we've learned anything from the iran fuckup it's that China could easily overcome the US in the region but not the Taiwanese

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Canadian here: What they said.

  • source
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I bet by now the dude cries himself to sleep every night hoping it will all be over soon.

  • source
  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Look at the map. Taiwan is a miniscule island, extremely close to the Chinese coastline. If they wanted to take it by force, we wouldn't stand a chance in getting it back. Our supply lines stretch for thousands of miles. Theirs are...right over there.

  • source
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Trump flopping his dick again?

  • source
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›