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You just crossed over into ... THE DEAD ZONE (lemmy.world)
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[–] 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Only kind of related, but I recently started reading "It Can't Happen Here" by Upton Sinclair Sinclair Lewis, and I had to put it down after like 30 pages because it was so creepily prescient. Like down to how the demagogue politician spoke.

The book was written in 1935.

Edit: before posting this, I was like "don't say Upton Sinclair, don't say Upton Sinclair " oops.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Nothing about our culture or tendencies in the last hundred years has changed as much as 21st century humans really like to believe that it has. Just as a for instance, the first cosplay convention was also in the 30s.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Daaaamn, were people cosplaying their favourite Jules Verne character or something?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    More like Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You're telling me those Sherlock Holmes fanatics weren't dressing up like him and characters from the books when they met up?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Possibly, but, as far as I know, the first conventions where cosplay became popular were largely contemporary comic and science fiction related. That’s why I mentioned Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers specifically. So popular were these two characters in fact that Flash Gordon for instance had a Sunday comic, a daily comic written by a different person than the Sunday one, a radio show, and the serial that was linked in my previous comment, all at the same time.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    That book, along with War Is A Racket, by Smedley Butler, should have been required reading for every American over the last century.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    instead they had us read books written by a socialist who thought it was so obvious that communism was a good idea that we would need warnings against authoritarianism masquerading as communism. and the interpretation they gave us was "see! communism is bad!"

    i don't know how anyone can read 1984 and not realize that the message is that a centralized authority is the problem

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    I see how.

    The lack of the rest of the sufficient context.

    Oh and also, we don't teach at all how evangelical Christianity was literally weaponized against 'communism/socialism', by capitalists, since before WW2, since FDR was trying to do the New Deal.

    We don't teach that because uh, well basically that propoganda worked, and has continued to work, for nearly 100 years now, to the point that the people affected/brainwashed by that, well they have inordinately outsized control over what gets into school textbooks.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    *Sinclair Lewis, not Upton Sinclair

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    • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    In the book, what got him in the end was using a baby as a human shield from a would-be assassin. Be honest, would Trump's supporters care?

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    • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There’s 3, lest we forget the 2nd

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    • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    He was impeached twice and removal failed in the Senate. As for the 25th amendment, most Americans don't know it even exists and Congress isn't going to use it.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    The 25th would never even get to Congress. Everyone in a position to invoke it is a Trump toady who wants him right where he is.

    25th Amendment, Section 4

    Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Trump has a better chance of being abducted by aliens.

    The problem isn't that people don't know about the 25th, the problem is they don't know how it works.

    Even if the cabinet invokes the 25th, the President can just say "nah, I'm cool" and that put's an end to the whole thing, unless congress votes to remove him at that time.

    So it's actually harder than impeachment and removal. Either way, you're going to need lots of Republicans to remove him.

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    • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    So now we're going to find out

    Don't we already know they don't work? There was a previous, successful (as in: reached its nominal end) Trump term.

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    [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution addresses issues related to presidential succession and disability.

    It clarifies that the vice president becomes president if the president dies, resigns, or is removed from office by impeachment. It also establishes the procedure for filling a vacancy in the office of the vice president.

    🤣😂 How is this going to help? JD fucking why aren't you wearing a suit Vance? Good one.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Pedo, Maga, or Israel? I've forgotten about why nobody likes SK

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    • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Narrator: They don’t.

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    [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    One machine.

    Impeachment has already failed.

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    [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    So...is this life imitating art?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    "Don't Create the Torment Nexus" was a strange mirror held up to society to show the inherent flaws in the system. By building the torment nexus, those who did so didn't fail to understand the metaphor. They just run society like that already, so why wouldn't they do it?

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