Google, Meta, Microsoft, and Snapchat are launching a counteroffensive to impose chat control on European citizens. : privacy@lemmy.world

Google, Meta, Microsoft, and Snapchat are launching a counteroffensive to impose chat control on European citizens. (mastodon.social)

submitted 4 months ago by privacypride@mastodon.social to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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Google, Meta, Microsoft, and Snapchat are launching a counteroffensive to impose chat control on European citizens.

"Today, with the expiration of the ePrivacy exemption that allowed the use of technology to detect child sexual abuse, Europe risks leaving children around the world less protected from the most abhorrent forms of abuse."

https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/around-the-globe/google-europe/reaffirming-commitment-to-child-safety/

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago*

the only abuse that happens is directly from these companies and their respective owners/CEO's. In fact, this push they are doing is so they can abuse more people

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

We need to stop using all of these companies. OS, and why don't we OS our own search engine? Because the corporate ones are all proper fucked now.

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[–] phatpipe69@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Easier said than done with the monopolies they have on it all. One by one they are all bending the knee.

Decentralisation is the only way. I've only just recently signed up on here, how does moderation etc work? Not to be lazy in asking but I was a bit thrown off by having to submit my email to sign up. I've also been trying Mirage after being taken down from Reddit and wasn't asked for any personal information to sign up on there.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

I am new here as well, I will have to check out this Mirage I have not heard of that, I did hear on here that there is an instance that does not require an email to sign up, it is a world related instance as I recall but I did not write it down.

But you can at least for the moment just make a new account on a new instance with the same email without anything following you, unless the moderators are on both instances, which is a pretty common occurrence.

I think the piefed developers are working on fucking you across the entire fediverse over the moderators' decisions on any instance however.

Reddit keeps chasing me off as well, no permaban but they have made it pretty clear they don't want me there. I imagine it is government related because I have nothing but overwhelmingly positive karma.

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[–] phatpipe69@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

Mirage feels to me like the very OG Reddit. Even from a UI standpoint. They've built their own blockchain. So when I signed up there, I was given my own seed phrase to access the account vs having to give any of my own personal credentials. Seems a lot more privacy focussed.

Also the moderation there is more opt in/opt out than Reddit for example. No issues with mods like those clowns over on Reddit. Just wasn't too pleased to see here I had to give my email to get on.

Check out mirage.talk and let me know your thoughts. 5RBG-CEW5 code should get you in!

What were reddit chasing you off for out of curiosity?

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

Oh, with me it's hard to say, Israel is probably the main factor, but I go pretty hard against corporate interests and the government as well. As always, it's mostly about Israel though. I used to get 6 months out of an account, after my first one lasted over a year, now I was down to 3 months, my new one got a violation in the first week for something that wasn't against the rules. None of these violations are against the rules. It is bad faith.

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[–] phatpipe69@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Brother holy fuck lol if i could high 5 you rn I would. Exact same for me. I lost my Twitter account back in the Covid days and have seen the way it's went with Elon regarding the Israel issue. Unbelievably hard to bite my tongue on there but I don't want to lost my twitter account after getting it back.

Reddit it was gone in a blink. Mirage to its credit, they market themselves as an absolute free speech platform so i've found my takes being received a lot better on there on the israel issue. Reassuring af that I can finally vent somewhere online without fear of any blowback, if that makes sense

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

I will have to check that out, that's what I want, I don't care if people are mean to me, I Can Be Mean back, I'm actually better at being mean than they are.

Are there enough people to make it worthwhile though?

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[–] phatpipe69@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It's relatively new but definitely growing a lot over the last few weeks bud! I've been finding myself enjoying it and checking it as much as I would my twitter during the day! Worth checking out 100%.

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[–] privacypride@mastodon.social [S] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

@teyrnon oh, how boring... The usual techno-libertarians who think Reddit is a den of tankies and think they can solve the world's problems with blockchain (but who view democracy with suspicion).
The fediverse is already capable of managing federated forums: Lemmy, Piefed, NodeBB, Mbin, Friendica...

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

What is your deal, I didn't say any of that. Reddit does blow though, and mastadon is popularity contest, and lemmy is a mini reddit in the context of moderators exercizing unchecked authority with no checks, since you ask.

You aren't going to overthrow silicon valley with your attitude I will tell you that, not with your reading comprehension either I would suspect from your weak attacks on me for shit I didn't say.

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[–] privacypride@mastodon.social [S] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

@teyrnon I'm sorry if you misunderstood, but I have no opinion about you and I'm not passing judgment. The "usual tecnolibertarians" are those at Mirage, a stillborn project. The latest in a series of projects based on so-called "free speech," which in reality is just the revenge of the most frustrated and manipulated classes.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago

Oh sorry I misunderstood. I was afraid this mirage would end uip being something like that, which is why I'm on the fediverse in the first place and not these other tech sponsored projects. I almost asked the guy but figured it was.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 months ago

daily reminder that most perpetrators of CSA are people who know the victim irl, especially family

[–] filobus@sociale.network 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

@privacypride @echo_pbreyer @privacy now it's clear, they show who is behind #chatcontrol initiative, who can push European politicians with their enormous mass on money

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago

If there was any chance that Chat Control was originally stupid politicians who meant well but didn't understand what they were doing, this is a clear indicator that it's no longer the case.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

As if there was ever any doubt. It's always been tech behind this.

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[–] Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

every accusation is a confession

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 4 months ago

If they’re focusing on children suddenly, you know it can’t be good.