The second-generation Blade battery can charge from 10-70% in just about five minutes and from 10-97% in under 10 minutes. More impressively, the company showcased the battery charging flawlessly from 20-97% at -22°F (-30°C) in just about 12 minutes, only around three minutes slower than it charges in normal temperatures.

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The EV was plugged in at 9% state of charge with 93 kilometers of range (57 miles). In 9 minutes and 51 seconds, it charged up to 97% with the range prediction in their gauge cluster displaying 1,008 kilometers (626 miles). This is likely calibrated for the China Light-Duty Test Cycle (CLTC), which tends to be more optimistic than the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) test cycle in the U.S.

Still, these charging speeds are way faster than the 20-40 minute charging stops on the latest EVs in the U.S. The new BYD EVs can basically recharge in nearly the same time it takes to refill a gas car. Even the new 1,500 kilowatt (1.5 megawatt) Flash charging stations are arranged like a traditional gas station for cars to quickly drive in and drive out.

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[–] 133 points 5 months ago (8 children)

There is no incentive for US companies to improve their products when they are protected from market forces by import restrictions.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    What US companies? Only three remain (GM, Ford, Tesla) and they make up a fraction of sales here in the US. The Chinese government is dumping truckloads of money into subsidies and development, control nearly all rare earth minerals, and don't shy away from environmental disasters and human rights abuses which is why they're the only nation on the planet that's able to develop this rapidly and sell their vehicles for way less than anyone else on the planet. Once they control everything you can kiss those low prices and rapid development goodbye, but you'll still buy from them because nobody else will be left standing.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    If all that is true, then the US should subsidize US ev’s to the point where they are price competitive and open the market to competition where US manufacturers can market against the environmental and human right issues with their Chinese competitors. That would put competitive pressure on Chinese manufacturers to clean up their supply chains and consumers worldwide would benefit.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago

    The US is battling the environmental and human rights issues that so agitate them about China by promoting 'clean coal' and rounding up brown people in concentration camps without due process.

    It's almost as if environmental and human rights issues weren't their real concern 🤔.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    A loss of overall competitiveness of the local companies is actually a well known and studied problem with using tariffs and import restrictions to protects said local companies.

    So any competent government which desires for their local companies to survive and prosper will seek different ways to strengthen then which don't suffer from that problem. The Chinese government is doing just that, the US government is not.

    By all indications, US politicians are spectacularly incompetent and/or are following a strategy of burning the future of US companies for a short term boost in the money they yield for current CxOs and investors.

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  • [–] [S] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They're fully in thrall to market forces. Those forces simply dictate that they lobby for protected markets. It's far cheaper to buy off a lobbyist than to build a cutting edge battery factory

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    [–] 56 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    China has also implemented the world’s most stringent standards for battery safety. They require automakers to ensure that batteries don't catch fire or explode for at least two hours after a single cell enters thermal runaway. If it does go ablaze, Chinese automakers are experimenting with some unusual ways of protecting the car and occupants from the battery fire.

    I like it way more than charging speeds. But also - I'm interested in how many recharge cycles they supposedly can live through, and that's not in the article.

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    [–] 42 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile ford wants to charge you a monthly fee for the luxury of opening the trunk n you e-mustang

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I can't find any information on this. Can you tell me where you read this so I can get more info? I do see they're charging $495 for the plastic tub in the frunk now.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How uninspiring are these "features" like charging for heated seats and using a "frunk" it really is pathetic.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    On the 2026 model of the Mustang mach-e, it doesn't have a frunk anymore, they used that space for a heat pump.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I bet they actually have incentives to create better technology.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    the new 1,500 kilowatt (1.5 megawatt) Flash charging stations

    Must be nice. In Spain the charging infrastructure looks like it's literally designed to torture EV owners.

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    [–] 24 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    [...] only around three minutes slower than it charges in normal temperatures.

    No. The cold tests starts at 20% and the normal test at 10%. My guess is that charging from 10-20% at -30 C takes a lot longer. Still a good battery, but they're fudging the numbers here.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    True, but I don't need to charge at -30C, and this thing charges FAST.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I do need to charge at those temps. Not all of us live in warm climates.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Wow. I think if I lived in that sort of climate I might not be driving an electric car. But I also think the likelihood of me moving to a climate that hostile is low. Keep safe out there!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    if I lived in that sort of climate I might not be driving an electric car.

    People living in -30°C don't necessarily do so all year round. The temperature varies between -30 and +30 during the full year where I live. Our EVs handle it just fine, even for long trips. 👍👍

    A fossil fuel car also consumes more gas in cold temperatures, as far as I've understood. Doesn't stop anyone in colder climate from using a car at all.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Charge time sounds great, but what about the number of charge cycles (I.e. longevity), the article did not mention that.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    They don't mention it, but I highly suspect its actually not significant.

    I used to think fast charging did the same thing, but it turns out that even the heaviest wattage implementations have negligible effects on cycles and health.

    As long as your driver is smart enough to control or manipulate the voltage at certain capacities (<15% and >85%), the higher power won't affect the cell quality.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    As long as your driver is smart enough to control or manipulate the voltage at certain capacities

    I feel like this is the important detail here...

    When buying a car, you can't have a clue whether that is the case.

    I used to believe fast charging is harmless in phones too. It isn't. I charge my phone only to 80%, and not daily. I haven't lost a single % of battery health in almost a year. Meanwhile my friends charge to 100% and very often, always on fast charging. I got a friend to install accubattery to check their health and it was at 93% after only about 1.5 years.

    Tl;dr: I suspect the driver will be dogshit and cause batteries to get destroyed in anything but the flagship car models to increase battery service revenue BY A LOT...

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Do I understand correctly - you charge to 80%, have zero degradation, but also only use 80% of your battery at most because of that.

    Your fast-charging friend, meanwhile, has been using all 100% down to 93% battery for these 1.5 years. Maybe, in a bad scenario his battery will degrade to 80% in 1-2 years and he'll start using only 80% of his like you?

    Where's the upside in this, unless you're both planing to use same phone in e.g. 5 years and you might get ahead in battery capacity finally?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Every time I’ve seen someone test this hypothesis - as in doing a long-term experiment with the specific purpose of testing whether fast charging harms battery health - the result has come back that it doesn’t make much deference at all

    It’s also worth pointing out that every battery is different and apps like Accubattery are imprecise. It’s entirely possible that your 100% and your friend’s 93% are actually exactly the same. It’s also possible that their battery would have displayed 93% when brand new

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    can charge from 10-70% in just about five minutes

    Why is that always a metric? Yeah, with a tiny battery or a kilowatt line maybe.

    More important is the cycle count.

    Edit: btw, why don't charging stations have a supercapacitor?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Cycle count is important for the lifetime estimate on the battery, how long before you have to spend a large portion of the cost of the car on replacing / refurbishing a key component.

    "Fill up" time is the most obvious and common 'maintenance' anyone will ever do on their vehicle. One of the biggest objections large swaths of the population have about EVs is/was that could take an hour or more for each stop on a long road trip or if you can't charge at home. (apartment / street parking / etc.) They usually do 10-70%r 80 or whatever because the speed trails off exponentially closer to 100%. (logarithmically? whichever.)

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Energy density or GTFO.

    I'm tired of articles that purposefully skip the actually important data

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