The very existence of a presidential pardon is bizarre and an insult to the judicial branch
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Wow, one whole non-plural republican?
I mean, a small crack is detrimental to the whole. One today, maybe not another for a while, but a crack looks to be forming. Not a lot, but it's something.
Which means they need 3 more to pass it at a 51:49 but if Republicans filibuster then it becomes 12 more at 60:40
EDIT: Amendments require 67. Also this is a house rep, not even a senator.
don't amendments need 67 Senate votes?
Republican Representative Don Bacon of Nebraska
Famous and notable coward Don Bacon grows a single atom of spine, to be surrendered upon his almost immediate retirement.
Fuck him, this is the most he's spoken out as a representative of one of a handful of districts where he'd benefit from a little bipartisanship. And he waits until the end of his career to do the most milquetoast act of defiance he wanders across.
I've met him. He's a nice guy, when he was in the air force at least he tipped pretty well. But he's a coward. And that will be his legacy.
Noice, they're finally starting to cave. They must be realizing their grand plan to turn the USA into some white christian state has failed.
No that's not it.
There are just a few left in the GOP that are smart enough to realize that the White "Christian" state that is developing isn't going to put them on top like they thought it would...
A few is all you need.
Actually you need more than a few.
Remember, when push comes to shove, not a single Republican voted to remove him from office after he tried to kill them.
Yeah if 13 GOP senators turned coat they could pass whatever DNC bills they wanted and if 20 turned they could remove Trump and have their little lapdog Vance run the show, or replace them both with an interim acting president speaker of the house or senate.
They have 53 total but it wouldn't even take 2/5ths to change everything.
Its Don Bacon. He still sides with Trump 99% of time, and is only doing this because he already announced he isn't seeking a new term.
Anyway to reverse prior ones like the J6 terrorists?
How many crimes have they committed since (besides the crime of attacking our government over being butthurt about losing).
Find something new to charge them with - interstate travel to commit violence, or conspiracy to commit treason, or something.
Theoretically. You’d likely need to get a constitutional change pushed through to even achieve the headline, since the presidential pardon is granted by the constitution.
You’d also need to get a law on the books which would allow retroactive revocation of the previous pardons.
That would been to be veto proof, for obvious reasons.
The bill was introduced by Rep. Johnny Olszewski (D-MD) last December and would allow for a minimum of 20 House members and five senators to call for congressional review of a pardon, which would lead to a 60-day deadline for Congress to nullify that pardon with a two-thirds majority vote – similar to a veto override.
Listen, I think it's great that we're breaking the taboo of pardons being somehow sacrosanct.
But there's exactly one person I can think of that would get 2/3rd of the Congress off their assess to block clemency against.
When it comes to pardons, congress should be forced to vote on them, or they lose their voting privilege and access to briefs for a month. If the yeas don't reach 51%, it doesn't go forward. Also, attach their name and vote to the record for the pardons, so that we know who are dipshits.
Right now, pardons are just excuses for bribes and corruption, not a tool for securing justice or national security. Honestly, it feels hard to justify their existence at all.
Giving Congress power to do stuff is a waste of fucking time. They have had the power to do many things and don't. Even even is supposedly specifically THEIR power to wield they have let trump use it himself
It's all symbolic. A constitutional amendment has zero probability of being ratified, and everyone in DC knows it.
The pardon power is sort of odd to begin with. It gives not just the executive branch, but a single executive the power to completely override the judicial branch. I do feel there should be a committee or set of guidelines in place, regardless of who holds office.
I don’t dislike this but the very nature of being able to reject the pardon creates another partisan issue. Make it exclusive to Trumps pardons.
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