submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [M] to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
 

Here's the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496

users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won't be able to interact (which you shouldn't be doing anyway)

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[–] [S, M] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

This is only slightly related to MoG, considering dbzer0 is largely a tankie-apologist instance that caters a tankie bar, and the thread only allows dbzer0 users to vote. This post here can serve as a neutral space where dbzer0 users can interact with Feddit users, and since MoG is referenced in the thread quite often.

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    [–] [S] 48 points 5 months ago (23 children)

    uhhhhh... saying death to any country or group is inherently violent and extremist.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I told them that it is not good to wish death on Israel or Palestine. Just because shitty people are in power, doesn't mean the populace has to suffer because of it. It doesn't matter which side.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 5 months ago

    that's also what i told them, but that was enough for them to consider me a zionist and ban me. for a group that larps on about how much they oppose campism they sure do use it a lot.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Travel writer Rick Steves recorded a taxi driver in Tehran exclaiming "Death to traffic!" in English, explaining that "when something frustrates us and we have no control over it, this is what we say". Steves compares the phrase to non-literal use of the word damn in American English.

    There's definitely a cultural translation issue here

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Tehranian's talking about death to inanimate abstractions that must be interpreted figuratively have an excuse that competent English writers who understand coherent literal meanings do not. We don't use "death to" this way: the right word is "fuck", eg, "fuck traffic!", "fuck Israel!".

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    [–] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    There is a crowd of people who will call you a zionist for anything. Yesterday someone reposted a neo Nazi and used Nazi language in their post title. Me calling them on it? Makes me a zionist, obviously.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Yeah I've had the same happen. It's very disheartening to see so many anti-zionists unknowingly repeat Nazi slogans and talking points. You point it out, you mention that 'hey, probably not a wise idea to use zio- since it's a term coined by David Duke'

    and they call you the nazi. like bruh, i aint the one quoting the KKK. that's why I call them antisemitic, since if a neo-nazi was using the same arguments and excuses, I certainly wouldn't buy it.

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    [–] 29 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Maybe they were just good at keeping on the mask, but it's a bit sad because I remember a year ago seeing most of db0 openly clowning on tankies whenever they showed up.

    Now Unruffled seems to be pushing to make the whole instance explicitly tankie/campist.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 5 months ago* (17 children)

    Db0 sometimes attacks Tankies, although self-admittedly, he is soft on them. Other times, he even camps with them.

    They've both told me that they prefer spending time with tankies instead of liberals, and consider liberals the bigger threat than tankies are. Which is curious considering the history of MLs and anarchists with how the MLs often betray anarchists. I believe their accusations of calling this community a nazi-bar stems from insecurity of their own spaces, where they regularly defend prominent tankies.

    I've never seen unruffled attack them though.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    At least some of them are tankies disguised as anarchists. Just look at a specific someone from the lefty memes community. Constantly bringing tankie talking points, but claims to be an anarchist.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah after looking at the history of Ukrainian anarchists I just don't understand how anyone could be a bigger threat than tankies.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's because they're both communist, so Anarchists keep trying to believe in "Left Unity"

    Anarchists who don't want to align with tankies are attacked for not believing in left unity, both by a few other anarchists and by many other tankies.

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    [–] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    All because we don't let them do as they like. Feddit is welcome to everybody who sticks to the rules. And the rules make it automatically difficult for people who follow hateful ideologies. I try my best to be fair to our community. Meanwhile certain dbzer0 users want us to ban people for simply believing Israel should exist, even if they are opposed to Netanyahu's regime and want settlers out of the West Bank.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's telling that they ban you without allowing you to explain yourself. Ultimately, dbzer0 has a severe antisemitism problem, and I think we're seeing some of their users realise that.

    (not so subtle reminder that dbzer0 users are allowed to post in this community, as is everyone)

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    And the rules make it automatically difficult for people who follow hateful ideologies

    Way to tell on themselves. Imagine turning your need for calls to violence into a make or break issue for your entire instance? lol, lmao even.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If you look through the thread the admins use examples of troll comments calling for violence and threatening other users as evidence of censorship and zionism.

    in the comment i posted in this sub they were called out

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It's also funny because some of the comments they cite as having been removed by the "Zionist" mods are literally just "Go fuck yourself you piece of trash!" followed by the actual argument. What do you think, were they banned for the first or the second half of their comment? Nuance seems to be completely dead on this instance, which is saddening to see because I greatly value the contributions of @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Seems like i's a personal vendetta from one of the admins.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    "They comply by laws that limit obvious hate speach, which is why we should seperate us and segregate them [because we love hate speach as long as it is directed at the right people]".

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    Ridiculous, but seeing this post - good riddance. Still, what a dumb way to lose contributors to their instance.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't take much from it, but one thing that surprised me is that they seem to think Europe is more pro Zionist than USA weirdly.

    Not the governments, the people specifically.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    dbzer0 seems like a silly place, let's not go there

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    A lot of alt accounts in the thread and I got the feeling that these three are the same person.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    This is a very interesting comment

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    [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Since it was kinda off topic as a separate post.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    This popped up in my reports feed not long ago.

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    [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    This is projection, because borari stopped talking to draconic NEO a long time ago. DN just keeps tagging them.

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    [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)
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    The Defed-iverse Wars, begun it has.

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    [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I came across a dbzer0 post with a discussion about this, the commenters were using really cringy pirate speech like „Arrr Matey“. I thought they were chatbots.

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    dbzero: "We don't like people getting banned for not being nice enough!"

    Also dbzero: "Rule number 1 here is that you have to be nice!"

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