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[–] 53 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I wonder what is wrong with jitsi...

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Have you tried selfhosting it? For me, it was unusable, despite a beefy cloud server, even for just 2 people. And thats ignoring setup complexity.

    This one is optimized and kubernetes ready, which makes it super easy. Will try out soon.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's licensed under Apache license:

    Apache License 2.0 A permissive license whose main conditions require preservation of copyright and license notices. Contributors provide an express grant of patent rights. Licensed works, modifications, and larger works may be distributed under different terms and without source code.

    Permissions Commercial use Modification Distribution Patent use Private use Limitations Trademark use Liability Warranty Conditions License and copyright notice State changes

    You know that they could just fork it, right? Saying that "it's american", just causes FUD for opensource.

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    [–] 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Why didn't they pour money on Jitsi?

    European, mature, FOSS...

    I fear grift is there somewhere.

    Also, French engineering has a habit of turning sound concepts into messy overengineerd but underbuilt results.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    My guess would be that its because La Suite tries to replace all of Microsoft Office and having all the moving parts under your organisations control makes it easier to create a fully integrated office suite that offers the same UX throughout. Also Jitsi is owned by 8x8, a US company, which might have factored into the decision to create something new.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    The development is quite transparent. The team is looking at reduced development and more integration, so instead of "pouring money on a project", they tried various solutions, and picked the "best one".

    One criteria was an integration with their internal communication system: Tchap, essentially a Matrix server. The Matrix video call group didn't cut it because it requires ElementX, and apparently there are unresolved issue there (no idea if it's the app itself or due to customization of their Matrix server). They ended up with Visio, that is not a "new" solution: it's based on LiveKit.

    https://github.com/tchapgouv/tchap-product/issues/259

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    [–] 41 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Was worried they'd use it as a walled garden or a monitoring system. MIT license iirc allows forking, so at least if things go downhill, there are ways to mitigate it.

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    [–] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Microsoft Teams is such a horrible piece of software that productivity will rise after abandoning Teams.

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    [–] 19 points 5 months ago

    Just created

    In testing for the past year

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    This is awesome!

    But I am confused, isn't github Microsoft though? Why host it there?

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Because it's free, convenient, and works. And it's a git project so the code is already distributed, so if Trump has another tantrum and decides the EU can't use any American tech, the deleted PRs and issues would be annoying but we'll still have the code.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I couldn't find any particular justification going through their website and other communication, it's not perfect but it's probably not that big a deal for an open source project to host their code there? If I remember I'll try to send them a message asking about it

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    That's one good place I want to see tax payer money going. Would be nice if a more governments join in and make big corpo irrelevant.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    France has horrible laws for encryption, so how much do you want to bet this thing doesn't have e2ee.

    This is an Intel operation

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    Zoom has poor encryption. I have seen targeted ads a day after discussing very specific chemical reagents on zoom.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, it was definitely that and not all the web browsing and searching you and your colleague did before, during, and after the meeting, and the meeting notes you sent over gmail/microsoft mail. 🙄

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    [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Why would they name it "Visio"? That is already the name of a different Microsoft product.

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    [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    That's one good place I want to see tax payer money going. Would be nice if a more governments join in and make big corpo irrelevant.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    MS about to swoop in with the yuge discounts…

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    [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I get that government use needs to be stringently tested for security, and so things take a little longer. But really, there are PLENTY of good FOSS products in existence that can be used as a base framework and a head-start to things like this.

    You don't have to re-invent the wheel when you could easily fork Jitsi-meet and harden it/secure it to your needs in the government.

    Jitsi is one of my top 5 FOSS projects that are basically already mature enough to be used in a professional setting

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Reinventing the wheel .... Jisti cries in corner

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    [–] 6 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    So many self hosted or european choices for that and still they created a new one. Same thing with W 😒

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    [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Anyone tried it? How is it

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The tech isn't hard to copy, just had to be willing to go and do it themselves.

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