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[–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Crucially, they said, a jury rather than a judge decided the Google case, meaning the gaming company’s underdog narrative likely held more sway. Google was also repeatedly caught misbehaving. From damning internal documents to missing and deleted evidence, the company seemed to take every chance it could to present itself as the very archetype of a powerful monopolist sneakily trying to muddy the truth, experts said.

And here are some examples of those internal documents:

In particular, Epic repeatedly pointed to an initiative called “Project Hug” where the company paid major game developers like Activision and Nintendo millions of dollars in incentives to keep their wares in the Play store and persuade them not to create their own rival stores. The stakes were high. Activision alone was reportedly offered $360m. Epic was offered $147m to keep Fortnite on Google Play. Google documents reportedly referred to Epic in this case as a worrisome “contagion” that could cause other developers to defect.

A jury is going to see that as bribery and not look favorably on Google.

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Google’s sloppy handling of documents struck a nerve with Judge Donato during the trial. Around a week before the verdict, the judge slammed Google’s handling of evidence as “a frontal assault on the fair administration of justice”... Donato said Google action’s amount to “the most serious and disturbing evidence I have ever seen in my decade on the bench with respect to a party intentionally suppressing relevant evidence”.

The judge calling out the defendent certainly doesn't help.

"The big difference between Apple and Google is Apple didn’t write anything down,” Sweeney said, according to CNBC. Epic Games did not immediately respond to the Guardian’s request for comment.

That says all I need to know about the difference between these two cases.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    It's like the textbook example of why you want a jury when your case is just nonsensical appeals to emotions and bias, and a judge when you want a case of facts

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I dunno, I think Google has some of that too though

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Google is worth over one trillion dollars, genius. And for the record-

    There are FIVE publicly traded trillion dollar companies.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Besides, if you want to win a complex court case, it certainly helps to have more than a few million dollars, so you can hire more of the best lawyers and let them prepare for longer time. But at some point, more money gets useless, and the stock value of your company isn't even money that you could spend on anything.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    TIL I'm a fucking idiot if I'm not up to date on my trillion dollar companies

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    What an angry person. I wrote specifically that I hadn't read the article. Not every utterance should be taken so seriously.

    You could've corrected me on my out of date information which was absolutely true for a while. I would've been receptive to learning.

    In any case, there was zero chance here of any damage done, yet you behave as though I'm spreading harmful medical information or something. Bye.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I’m not an angry person at all. I just think that you shouldn’t opine on articles you had no intention to read, and then make up information so you can argue non-points with people. And “out of date?” That’s a pretty broad defense isn’t it? Sure….. At a certain point there were no trillion dollar companies- until there was one. So it looks like you have the perfect defense there bud.

    I won’t apologise becasue It’s my belief that people need to be called out over this bullshit.

    We’re far too lax and forgiving of people who purposefully dilute information because they’re too lazy to bother to educate themselves- and then start lengthy arguments in defense of said bullshit.

    I’d like to think you’ll remember er this the next time you think to invent “facts” so you can join in a discussion.

    Don’t argue. Just do better.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yeah you kind blew the whole "I'm not angry" charade with the second half of this message.

    Edit: after browsing your comment history a moment, it's quite clear I'm not nearly the first to feel the anger

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So Epic had more money for the Google case than the Apple case?

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (2 children)