cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/41056130

At least 31 states and the District of Columbia restrict cell phones in schools

New York City teachers say the state’s recently implemented cell phone ban in schools has showed that numerous students no longer know how to tell time on an old-fashioned clock.

“That's a major skill that they're not used to at all,” Tiana Millen, an assistant principal at Cardozo High School in Queens, told Gothamist of what she’s noticed after the ban, which went into effect in September.

Students in the city’s school system are meant to learn basic time-telling skills in the first and second grade, according to officials, though it appears children have fallen out of practice doing so in an increasingly digital world.

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[–] 74 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Pains me that the article calls them "old" clocks and not "analog" clocks.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 42 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    Maybe someone should teach them...

    One of the greatest dangers to a society is people assuming anything is innate or the next generation will magically know shit.

    Nobody taught these kids how to read a clock. So they don't know how to read a clock.

    This is a very minor thing, but it's an easier concept to grasp than the abstract concept of empathy we also stopped teaching kids.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    I'm a millennial and I was taught how to read a clock in 2nd grade. Are they not teaching this basic skill anymore?

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    [–] 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe it wasn't such a major skill after all 😄

    Also, I'm old and remember waking up after partying hard and looking at an analog clock, not knowing whether it's AM or PM. Those clocks suck. 24h or nothing. Also radio-controlled clocks are a blessing ngl.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Looking at the sky will often help with distinguishing AM vs PM

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah they probably can't read cursive either.

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    [–] 15 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    which new york teacher was stunned because i have questions

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    I learned to read an analog clock in elementary school. If schools aren't teaching it anymore idk why they're shocked that kids don't know how.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Bet they can't dial a rotary phone or hitch a horse to a wagon either.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    They seem bad at computers a lot of the time too. I know right wingers like to make public schools lives hell by slashing budgets constantly but like damn.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I remember when I was in 5th grade, back in the early '80s, a kid didn't know how to tell time on a clock. The adults then blamed the popularity of digital wristwatches. On one hand it doesn't really matter, on the other it's a great introduction to visualizing alternate numbering systems.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    I was in 5th grade back in 00's and if you don"t knoe how to tell time on a clock, you get made fun of. It offers a different, a more intuitive, perception of progressing time. It's more like a progress bar than just counting numbers

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    [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    "Old clocks"

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    This is not surprising at all. Even when taking about time relative to the analog clock, it gets difficult, a lady asked me for the time at Walmart, and she could not understand "half past six". When I clarified that's 6:30, she finally got it.

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    [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    You're a teacher? Teach!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I taught my gen-z kid to read an analog clock because I knew no one else would. I know he learned it.

    He's 27 now, and living back at home. Recently, we were in the kitchen and the cat was asking to be fed. He said, "I don't think it's time yet..." and then went to his room to check the time on his phone. The same analog clock he learned to read is on the wall in the kitchen, where it's been his entire life. Apparently, he didn't practice at all after I taught him and tested him on it, and now can't read it? I dunno, I didn't ask, I didn't want to make a whole thing out of it.

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    [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    How is that even possible? The only clocks on display in my house are analog. Do people not have wall clocks? Do kids grow up never knowing what time it is? That's a standard household furnishing.

    Then again, it does say some students, so I probably should assume it's a minority who never asked their parents what the fuck that thing on the wall was.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    the only clocks I have on display in my house are analog

    That's a choice. You don't have to have any analog clocks. I don't currently have any. I dislike decorational clocks and strictly have digital clocks as informational devices where I want the time at a glance. Not to mention, I have 4 appliances in the kitchen with digital clocks (oven, microwave, drip coffee, keurig). Meanwhile, I absolutely hate audible ticking, so the only analogs I've bought are watches.

    Also, as a former child, I can tell you children do not know what time it is. I also had digital clocks available the whole time, ranging from my dad's "James Bond" Casio, to the VCR flashing 12:00 all the time. Mostly, the pale teal VFD type.

    It doesn't make sense to think of reading an analog clock as a necessary skill. It's like driving a manual car. Can you? I do it daily. I can count on one hand the number of times being able to drive stick saved me in an emergency situation by being the only transmission available (it's a closed fist). All the same, I have never been in an emergency situation that was dependent on my ability to read an analog clock

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Tick Tock. Tick Tock.

    That shit gets it's battery removed or taken off the wall and shoved in the bathroom whenever I end up at a hotel/motel with one.

    Drives me insane.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I don't mind ticking (up to a certain point), but my Dad used to have in his garage an analog clock that not only ticked but also had extremely audible whirring sounds. They were associated (I assume) with the gearing. Again, it never really bothered me - I didn't spend much time in the garage and I'm pretty sure that clock had been around longer than I had (which is probably why it was so noisy). I was accustomed to it.

    However, I remember the day my dad got hearing aids. One of the first things he observed was how noisy the clock was, asking if it had always been that way.

    My dad spent a lot of time in his garage. Pretty sure that clock didn't last out the week.

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