At this point, many people have been bailing from the server due to the uptime issues. What's the rub?

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[–] 108 points 3 years ago (3 children)

They're being targeted for constant DDoS attacks. Could be multiple reasons. But the takeaway should be to spread out evenly through the fediverse. Don't all pile into .world (as I post this on my .world account).

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Probably those ultra right-wingers from that recently defederated instance being the adult man-children they always are.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    It could be tbut the most recent de-federation controversy didn't involve a right wing instance.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I know it's easy to blame the alt right for everything, but the hexbear community was a communist community.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I thought the most recent one was those skinheads taking over rammy. I figure there's going to be quite a few defederating examples going on.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Any recommendations other than .world?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Been on kbin.social for a month and it's been pretty solid. Note it's a different platform than lemmy (designed to read both lemmy and mastodon), but does a great job posting to and handling the content from lemmy platforms. There's growing pains here too, but the uptime has been good.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I think that the dev and some volunteers at kbin.social has done a lot of work on scaling up that instance, but even so, kbin.social will probably hit hard-to-fix scaling issues at some point. It's also a big instance, like lemmy.world.

    I'd been looking at another (presently small) US-based one-person kbin instance, was planning to hop over if it stayed up to help spread load, but it looks like it went down.

    I suppose that once a number of instances have a track record of staying up for N months and with their uptime records established, it'll be easier to figure out what instances are good alternatives, are likely around for the long haul, and which ones will vanish in the wind.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The big reason for being a target is the size. Why attack smaller ones with less effect? Like making a virus for anything besides Windows. But maybe the long term benefit is the movement of some to other instances, balancing out the loads.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago

    My guess, some loveless planarian with a botnet felt they didn't get enough attention from mommy and decided to hit .world with a couple DDOS attacks.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    One claim is DDOS attacks, another claim is that the servers are too small for the massive amount of people that recently adopted lemmy

    I'd love to know which is true just because .. . . it's fun to know details

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Massive amounts of organic traffic to too small a server technically is a DDOS, even if unintentional rather than malicious. So, both to varying degrees, probably?

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    [–] 31 points 3 years ago

    They were getting hit with a lot of DDoS attacks a week or two ago, that may still be going on. Also they took off faster than most instances so a lot of this is just growing pains.

    many people have been bailing from the server

    That's not a bad thing, the content is shared between instances so you can get it on the other sites too. People going to other sites will hopefully help balance the load and possibly help with the growing pains. I haven't created an account on another instance yet, but I've been visiting other instances when .world goes down.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Growing pains. It's ok we'll pull through.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    4 hours to post this?

    DDOS? Cloudflare is supposed to stop that. I see a lot of cloudflare errors.

    lemmy world status shows 292 instances in the past 8 days! Elevated response times and system resources repeated endlessly.

    Insufficient RAM and CPU are my main suspicion due to explosive growth. Parts aren't cheap but are needed.

    How can we help with funding?

    Subscriptions? - NO. This is not a commercial endeavour.

    Donations? - Maybe. One off donations with no further commitment. Obviously, donate again if you want to.

    Go Fund Me? - Possible but who sets it up. Possible fraud?

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  • [+] 9 points 3 years ago (3 children)
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    It's like a fun* little cat and mouse game, you figure out the patterns to block specific traffic, then they adapt and you start again. I even saw some users comment the other day they were being hit with false positives and blocked because the blocking was too aggressive. Fortunately there are companies that specialize in this kind of stuff like cloudflare. But that costs money so it wasn't added until just recently, so it's possible attacks are still getting around that.

    *obnoxious

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    I've hopped to another server due to the abysmal uptime of late. I'll continue checking in though. I know they're working on adding sysops so I'm sure things will improve.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I left because of the executive decision to defederate from hexbear.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I wish the admins would come out and give an update as to what is going on.

    I wish I could migrate my account to another instance.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    You can, sort of.

    Use LASIM to download your subbed communities next time lemmy.world is up. Make a new account on another instance. Upload your communities to the new account with LASIM.

    Unfortunately, posts/comments don't go - but you can do like me and just leave a trail between your accounts (if you care enough). I just link to and from my old/new accounts in the bio each time I make one. It's a little janky, but it works - and it's better than waiting hours for lemmy.world to be up for 12 minutes before going down again.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I'm gonna save this reply thanks!

    Whats LASIM though?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Lemmy Account Settings Instance Migrator

    It's a tool that basically just allows you to download a list of communities you're subscribed to, which is good to have as a backup if your instance ever goes down.

    There's also an upload option for if you make a new account someplace else, which can take that backup of your communities and subscribe the new account to all of them automatically, rather than starting from scratch.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Really sucks that some dummies would attack lemmy like this.

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Also another thread on the topic : https://lemmy.world/post/2856311

    It's in !fediverse@lemmy.world , named "When you notice Lemmy is quieter than usual, then have a look at the Lemmy.world status"

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