β² 249 βΌ wayland meme i found on discord (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by siriusmart@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 22 points 3 years ago (3 children) Outdated meme, NVIDIA has had good Wayland support for over a year now permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) It didn't work well for me, I tried Wayland recently with both nouveau and proprietary driver and encountered bugs. Had to switch back to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Interesting, what GPU and DE did you use? Distro? I was able to get things running smoothly on my GTX 1070 with Wayland and KDE Plasma. With NVIDIA, you also do have to set up DRM (Direct Rendering Manager): https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) 2080ti with sway/wlroots. Distro is Gentoo. I had everything set up properly, nouveau devs confirmed it was a bug (I was getting a kernel warning when using a certain OpenGL application) The proprietary driver had unbearable flickering/screen tearing on Wayland. I will say that besides that one application the nouveau driver worked great but unfortunately it was a deal breaker for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's an open issue for xwayland for a lot of the flickering issues under nvidia, with a lot of disagreement about how to solve the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 3 years ago This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around. However, this issue - not as much... permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Waitβ doesnβt sway require you to enter βmy-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia to launch? I didnβt think sway would ever work with Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nouveau sucks for anything post 1000 series, it's just not there yet. I'm on Gentoo and my 2000 (and 3000) series card is perfect on Wayland under KDE Plasma. Give it another go - I'm pretty sure your issue isn't "Wayland" or NVIDIA". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't get it. What's "Wayland"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Wayland is a windowing system, sort of. It's a replacement for X11. It changes how graphics are done on Linux machines, and has a more modern and secure approach which offers better performance and efficiency. It notoriously doesn't work very well on NVIDIA, because NVIDIA for a long time didn't allow the community to write drivers for Linux and didn't want to put effort into making it work correctly. This has changed recently but there are still some headaches with certain desktop environments or window managers. This is a video from 2 years ago that tries to explain Wayland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM It's a lot more usable now than it was when this video came out though, I run it every day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] siriusmart@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) wayland has worked perfectly for me in the past year, but still here's a recent wayland meme video by Virbox https://youtu.be/t5NCvrYbIac permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/t5NCvrYbIac Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaped@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [β] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 years ago yeah i'm on 3060ti and wayfire, it's been good for quite a while now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) It didn't work well for me, I tried Wayland recently with both nouveau and proprietary driver and encountered bugs. Had to switch back to X. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Interesting, what GPU and DE did you use? Distro? I was able to get things running smoothly on my GTX 1070 with Wayland and KDE Plasma. With NVIDIA, you also do have to set up DRM (Direct Rendering Manager): https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) 2080ti with sway/wlroots. Distro is Gentoo. I had everything set up properly, nouveau devs confirmed it was a bug (I was getting a kernel warning when using a certain OpenGL application) The proprietary driver had unbearable flickering/screen tearing on Wayland. I will say that besides that one application the nouveau driver worked great but unfortunately it was a deal breaker for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's an open issue for xwayland for a lot of the flickering issues under nvidia, with a lot of disagreement about how to solve the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 3 years ago This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around. However, this issue - not as much... permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Waitβ doesnβt sway require you to enter βmy-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia to launch? I didnβt think sway would ever work with Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nouveau sucks for anything post 1000 series, it's just not there yet. I'm on Gentoo and my 2000 (and 3000) series card is perfect on Wayland under KDE Plasma. Give it another go - I'm pretty sure your issue isn't "Wayland" or NVIDIA". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Interesting, what GPU and DE did you use? Distro? I was able to get things running smoothly on my GTX 1070 with Wayland and KDE Plasma. With NVIDIA, you also do have to set up DRM (Direct Rendering Manager): https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) 2080ti with sway/wlroots. Distro is Gentoo. I had everything set up properly, nouveau devs confirmed it was a bug (I was getting a kernel warning when using a certain OpenGL application) The proprietary driver had unbearable flickering/screen tearing on Wayland. I will say that besides that one application the nouveau driver worked great but unfortunately it was a deal breaker for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's an open issue for xwayland for a lot of the flickering issues under nvidia, with a lot of disagreement about how to solve the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 3 years ago This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around. However, this issue - not as much... permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Waitβ doesnβt sway require you to enter βmy-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia to launch? I didnβt think sway would ever work with Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nouveau sucks for anything post 1000 series, it's just not there yet. I'm on Gentoo and my 2000 (and 3000) series card is perfect on Wayland under KDE Plasma. Give it another go - I'm pretty sure your issue isn't "Wayland" or NVIDIA". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) 2080ti with sway/wlroots. Distro is Gentoo. I had everything set up properly, nouveau devs confirmed it was a bug (I was getting a kernel warning when using a certain OpenGL application) The proprietary driver had unbearable flickering/screen tearing on Wayland. I will say that besides that one application the nouveau driver worked great but unfortunately it was a deal breaker for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's an open issue for xwayland for a lot of the flickering issues under nvidia, with a lot of disagreement about how to solve the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 3 years ago This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around. However, this issue - not as much... permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Waitβ doesnβt sway require you to enter βmy-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia to launch? I didnβt think sway would ever work with Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nouveau sucks for anything post 1000 series, it's just not there yet. I'm on Gentoo and my 2000 (and 3000) series card is perfect on Wayland under KDE Plasma. Give it another go - I'm pretty sure your issue isn't "Wayland" or NVIDIA". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's an open issue for xwayland for a lot of the flickering issues under nvidia, with a lot of disagreement about how to solve the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 3 years ago This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around. However, this issue - not as much... permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 3 years ago This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around. However, this issue - not as much... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Waitβ doesnβt sway require you to enter βmy-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia to launch? I didnβt think sway would ever work with Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nouveau sucks for anything post 1000 series, it's just not there yet. I'm on Gentoo and my 2000 (and 3000) series card is perfect on Wayland under KDE Plasma. Give it another go - I'm pretty sure your issue isn't "Wayland" or NVIDIA". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't get it. What's "Wayland"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Wayland is a windowing system, sort of. It's a replacement for X11. It changes how graphics are done on Linux machines, and has a more modern and secure approach which offers better performance and efficiency. It notoriously doesn't work very well on NVIDIA, because NVIDIA for a long time didn't allow the community to write drivers for Linux and didn't want to put effort into making it work correctly. This has changed recently but there are still some headaches with certain desktop environments or window managers. This is a video from 2 years ago that tries to explain Wayland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM It's a lot more usable now than it was when this video came out though, I run it every day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] siriusmart@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) wayland has worked perfectly for me in the past year, but still here's a recent wayland meme video by Virbox https://youtu.be/t5NCvrYbIac permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/t5NCvrYbIac Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaped@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Wayland is a windowing system, sort of. It's a replacement for X11. It changes how graphics are done on Linux machines, and has a more modern and secure approach which offers better performance and efficiency. It notoriously doesn't work very well on NVIDIA, because NVIDIA for a long time didn't allow the community to write drivers for Linux and didn't want to put effort into making it work correctly. This has changed recently but there are still some headaches with certain desktop environments or window managers. This is a video from 2 years ago that tries to explain Wayland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM It's a lot more usable now than it was when this video came out though, I run it every day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] siriusmart@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) wayland has worked perfectly for me in the past year, but still here's a recent wayland meme video by Virbox https://youtu.be/t5NCvrYbIac permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/t5NCvrYbIac Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 0 points 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] siriusmart@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) wayland has worked perfectly for me in the past year, but still here's a recent wayland meme video by Virbox https://youtu.be/t5NCvrYbIac permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/t5NCvrYbIac Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
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[β] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 years ago yeah i'm on 3060ti and wayfire, it's been good for quite a while now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Brochetudo@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago Dancing, walking, rearranging furniture permalink fedilink source
[β] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 3 years ago Fuck nvidia. Bought Amd after almost 10y and I am not looking back. permalink fedilink source
[β] GTG3000@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) God damned wayland. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GTG3000@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nah, hate wayland too. Although mostly because I had to bang my head against it for a full workday to get something working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Wayland on Intel or AMD works fine. What do you mean ? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You mean Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GTG3000@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nah, hate wayland too. Although mostly because I had to bang my head against it for a full workday to get something working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Wayland on Intel or AMD works fine. What do you mean ? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GTG3000@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Nah, hate wayland too. Although mostly because I had to bang my head against it for a full workday to get something working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Wayland on Intel or AMD works fine. What do you mean ? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Wayland on Intel or AMD works fine. What do you mean ? permalink fedilink source parent
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