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[–] 189 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The birth defect line actually narrows it down pretty well, depleted uranium concerns are basically bullshit so that largely narrows it down to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.

    Everyone else either just got bombed to shit or just got done killing 25 million Chinese, Filipino, and Korean people.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    DU concerns with tank rounds are bullshit. With autocannon rounds, the dispersion and amount may actually be harmful.

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  • To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern.

    I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign.

    And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered.

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  • [+] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    You got this backward. The UK and US announced they would send depleted uranium rounds to Ukraine, and Russia lost its shit (Reuters, NPR, NBC, Al Jazeera). Why do you think Russia lost its shit? I think it's pretty apparent it's because they don't want the West supporting Ukraine and will latch onto any issue that could weaken that support.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Western media lost its shit because media profits from sensational news no matter how stupid it's inferences are.

    Western government media outlets lost it's shit because deplete uranium is far more effective in penetrating tank armor, and they had the tiny radioactive footprint as a focal point to cause a bit of fear based mischief, as governments do.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Someone bought the propaganda, I see. You're right, DU is harmless to coat a country in, and all the cleanup efforts are only to clean away all non-DU contaminated soil. It's straight up humanitarian work they're doing!

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me? It was Tuesday."

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It was a Thursday, you monster!

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Also, yes, fuck all military. Color me brave, but all military sucks very bad and is cancer on the body of Earth, not just American.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We wouldn't even need a military if nobody became a soldier.

    They are literally the solution to the problem they cause themselves.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Exactly.

    "We protect you"...from guys like you on the other side? Cool, thanks.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That stance is pure idealism. Yeah sure, it'd be great not to spend the money or emit CO2 just to make sure we don't get invaded*, but since that is a risk, and you can't just kumbaya it away.

    Then, since having a military is at minima a defensive imperative, how is wanting to be a defender anything close to bad? Granted, some armies are pure ideological cancer, but that does not define what an army is, and it's not a global issue.

    To get straight to the moral dichotomy of our time, how can you say that the English army who defended itself against the Wehrmacht were the same as the Wehrmacht? I'm not trying to corner you or being disingenuous, I don't get how you can say that all armies are somewhat the same

    • (this doesn't apply to the US military which is pure bloat)
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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hot take: Wehrmacht fought a defensive war. Everyone fights a defensive war.

    Wehrmacht tried to defend and secure the future of Arian race, they defended themselves against a perceived threat of Jews overrunning them.

    English, while fighting fiercely against Germans, still militarily held their colony in India, protecting the interests of the crown.

    Israeli army is now committing genocide, repeatedly and casually doing war crimes - in the name of protection, of course.

    Every army, given the chance, will claim defensive interest in the war that's to come. That's why biggest war aggressor countries have Ministries of Defence, not Ministries of Offence.

    There are all kinds of institutions out there that can help mediate demilitarization. Yet leaders of many countries don't want that, and we should force them to do so - primarily through the inside democratic pressure, whenever possible.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    vietnam war? sounds patriotic 🇱🇷🇱🇷🦅🦅🦅 who won? 🦅

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nobody ever wins, but someone always profits.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    War is good for business.

    Peace decidedly is not. Either a rare Ferengi L or humans are literally more evil than the Ferengi.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    In some ways, humans are worse. At least Ferengi have a universal code they all adhere to and anyone who doesn't is treated like a pariah. Imagine if Republicans had to actually be beholden to the law and knew they had to because that's how society worked.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Got in a little hometown jam

    So they put a rifle in my hands

    Send me off to a foreign land

    To go and kill the yellow man

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    The better question would be, 'which one?'

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "We were stopping communism, you ungrateful slanteye! And you're welcome!"

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I don't know what year the Colonial Marines invaded Vietnam, but color me impressed...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    “Because I could. Because you fell for it.” - Pong Krell

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Just a little tomfoolery

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Damn bro, I didn’t realize Henry Pissinger had a body double.

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