▲ 861 ▼ Oh, That (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by TokenBoomer@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] jplate8@lemmy.world 189 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 56 points 2 years ago (5 children) The birth defect line actually narrows it down pretty well, depleted uranium concerns are basically bullshit so that largely narrows it down to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Everyone else either just got bombed to shit or just got done killing 25 million Chinese, Filipino, and Korean people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago Fallujah wants a word. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liz@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago Eh, I mean, I'd rather not have DU dust everywhere. It is still all alpha emitter, after all. Plus, it's a heavy metal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) DU concerns with tank rounds are bullshit. With autocannon rounds, the dispersion and amount may actually be harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 2 years ago To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern. I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign. And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] randy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago You got this backward. The UK and US announced they would send depleted uranium rounds to Ukraine, and Russia lost its shit (Reuters, NPR, NBC, Al Jazeera). Why do you think Russia lost its shit? I think it's pretty apparent it's because they don't want the West supporting Ukraine and will latch onto any issue that could weaken that support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Western media lost its shit because media profits from sensational news no matter how stupid it's inferences are. Western government media outlets lost it's shit because deplete uranium is far more effective in penetrating tank armor, and they had the tiny radioactive footprint as a focal point to cause a bit of fear based mischief, as governments do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone bought the propaganda, I see. You're right, DU is harmless to coat a country in, and all the cleanup efforts are only to clean away all non-DU contaminated soil. It's straight up humanitarian work they're doing! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 56 points 2 years ago (5 children) The birth defect line actually narrows it down pretty well, depleted uranium concerns are basically bullshit so that largely narrows it down to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Everyone else either just got bombed to shit or just got done killing 25 million Chinese, Filipino, and Korean people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago Fallujah wants a word. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Liz@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago Eh, I mean, I'd rather not have DU dust everywhere. It is still all alpha emitter, after all. Plus, it's a heavy metal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) DU concerns with tank rounds are bullshit. With autocannon rounds, the dispersion and amount may actually be harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 2 years ago To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern. I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign. And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] randy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago You got this backward. The UK and US announced they would send depleted uranium rounds to Ukraine, and Russia lost its shit (Reuters, NPR, NBC, Al Jazeera). Why do you think Russia lost its shit? I think it's pretty apparent it's because they don't want the West supporting Ukraine and will latch onto any issue that could weaken that support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Western media lost its shit because media profits from sensational news no matter how stupid it's inferences are. Western government media outlets lost it's shit because deplete uranium is far more effective in penetrating tank armor, and they had the tiny radioactive footprint as a focal point to cause a bit of fear based mischief, as governments do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone bought the propaganda, I see. You're right, DU is harmless to coat a country in, and all the cleanup efforts are only to clean away all non-DU contaminated soil. It's straight up humanitarian work they're doing! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago Fallujah wants a word. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Liz@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago Eh, I mean, I'd rather not have DU dust everywhere. It is still all alpha emitter, after all. Plus, it's a heavy metal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) DU concerns with tank rounds are bullshit. With autocannon rounds, the dispersion and amount may actually be harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 2 years ago To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern. I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign. And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 2 years ago To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern. I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign. And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] randy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago You got this backward. The UK and US announced they would send depleted uranium rounds to Ukraine, and Russia lost its shit (Reuters, NPR, NBC, Al Jazeera). Why do you think Russia lost its shit? I think it's pretty apparent it's because they don't want the West supporting Ukraine and will latch onto any issue that could weaken that support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Western media lost its shit because media profits from sensational news no matter how stupid it's inferences are. Western government media outlets lost it's shit because deplete uranium is far more effective in penetrating tank armor, and they had the tiny radioactive footprint as a focal point to cause a bit of fear based mischief, as governments do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago You got this backward. The UK and US announced they would send depleted uranium rounds to Ukraine, and Russia lost its shit (Reuters, NPR, NBC, Al Jazeera). Why do you think Russia lost its shit? I think it's pretty apparent it's because they don't want the West supporting Ukraine and will latch onto any issue that could weaken that support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Western media lost its shit because media profits from sensational news no matter how stupid it's inferences are. Western government media outlets lost it's shit because deplete uranium is far more effective in penetrating tank armor, and they had the tiny radioactive footprint as a focal point to cause a bit of fear based mischief, as governments do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone bought the propaganda, I see. You're right, DU is harmless to coat a country in, and all the cleanup efforts are only to clean away all non-DU contaminated soil. It's straight up humanitarian work they're doing! permalink fedilink source parent
