I mean, they literally are weapons...
Potentially deadly
I mean, they literally are weapons...
Potentially deadly
Wow Dobrindt say something that is not completely braindead and illegal? Wonders still exist.
I kind of had an issue with this at first read, because if anyone is taking some ghb (and not using it to rape people) having weapons charges is ridiculous.
But I've got no issue with increased penalties for anyone using this stuff to rape someone. There should be no fucking quarter to anyone caught doing this.
Increased penalties if you're caught taking them yourself recreationally are ridiculous though.
Isn't being raped enough to ensure justice for survivors?
No. Drugging them is enough of a threat even if the culprit doesn't manage to rape his victim. Treating at attempt to drug someone with a date rape drug as assault sounds like it might be a very good idea. Though I admit I haven't thought about all the angles yet.
I see, but isn't alcohol also able to do this? Did I just drink a weapon with my pizza?
While date rap and sexual violence is horrible... Do these drugs have any real value?
Like yes they can be used for date rape but are also given anti-anxiety or ant-nausea or anything like that?
One of my fiancés is narcoleptic and needs meds like GHB to sleep 'cuz the anti-narcoleptics she needs to stay awake during the day won't let her sleep otherwise.
Hmm interesting and makes sense.
Wait one of your fiancé? How many women are you planning to marry?
What in the Utah
My life is.. complicated.
Hey whatever it takes to get health insurance and visas for as many people as possible haha
They're only being classified as weapons in prosecution, not being banned.
scopalamine is one that used for date raped, although not common, it appears to make you unconscious for a day if high enough. the show Criminal minds had an episode where the perpatrator used to rape/ or rob people.
Yeah but why is it allowed at all if that's the case?
You want to ban sea sickness tablets? Libs really will jump to ban anything
Hold on, it's used for sea sickness?
If that's the case it should be allowed, maybe controlled but should be allowed. Never said something with a legimite use should be banned. Just asked what the legitimate uses were. Actually I never mentioned banning anything.
GHB is freely available because it's used as an industrial solvent and cleaning agent, that's why it's legal in most countries.
Many people also use it as a recreational drug, it's effects are similar to alcohol at low dosages
I'm not an expert on this, but I know it's common to use things like tranquilizers intended for farm animals.
I have some problem with this proposal:
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