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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    the number of deaths that will be directly attributed to the cutting of USAid internationally and the loss of healthcare, jobs and environmental regulations in the US

    Hey now, we didn't cut USAID. We just sent $40B to our good friends in Argentina. And now Milei's party has won the midterms, which means he can continue his War On Leftism inside the state and along the borders.

    We're also helping to arm and secure Guyana, in a Kuwait-like project to drill into neighboring Venezuelan oil fields. That's not happening for free. Lots of Latin Americans and US government contractors are absolutely getting their palms greased. It's been a bonanza for NATO aligned mercenaries since the Bush Era, thanks to all the money we're spending on freelance military.

    We're saving lives, man. All that money is putting food on the tables of any number of cocaine snorting, whore house frequenting, tacti-cool sunglass wearing Afghanistan washouts and their Guasano peers.

    Are you just going to ignore that?

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  • [–] 56 points 9 months ago

    Everyone involved should be extradited to those countries affected and face justice.

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If they claim they know that these boats have drugs on them, they could just apprehend them when they made port.

    But then they would have to actually find said drugs to use as evidence to prosecute them.

    This is just extrajudicial murder, plain and simple. I hope Trump and everyone who is involved with this dies an excruciatingly painful death.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    If they claim they know that these boats have drugs on them, they could just apprehend them when they made port

    That would require due process, instead of a spectacle of Shock and Awe.

    Also, let's say, hypothetically that these aren't drug boats. Let's say they are boats moving medical supplies or fuel or building materials between Venezuela and Cuba. Let's say they're actually military units working on behalf of the Venezuelan Coast Guard or just fisherman who got caught in an international crossfire.

    It's just easier to say "Drug Gang. Killed them." knowing no major American media source is going to publish a rebuttal. Nobody in the US has access to the details of the attack. Nobody is going to interview the families or investigate the wreckage. Nobody is going to contradict this regime when it comes to butchering citizens of the Global South.

    So why not call them a drug gang? Call them human traffickers. Call them roving nautical pedophiles. Call them Islamic Jihad.

    American audiences won't hear anything different.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    But then they would have to actually find said drugs to use as evidence to prosecute them.

    It's not like those can't be planted. They're already killing civilians of another country, there's no bottom in their games.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's murder for political optics plain and simple.

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago* (18 children)

    Extrajudicial murders using the same paltry level of evidence as most ICE operations. The word MURDER is the essential word.

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    [–] 25 points 9 months ago

    It's insane that they aren't, at worst, intercepting and searching these vessels. As with everything Trump does, cruelty is the point.

    This man is a convicted felon that is sloppily trying to cover up the fact he sexually abused children (Epstein Files), along with the full support of the republican party. And the GOP (politicians and voters alike) are complicit with these crimes as long as they agree he should not be punished.

    We, the sane people in this world, will never forget these facts.

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    They can tell how many they killed, but no actual eviidence of drugs in the wreckage while counting bodies??

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    [–] 24 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    They will keep killing fishermen until Venezuela takes action, and then its ok to invade for that sweet sweet oil. Drill baby drill! USA USA USA!

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    [–] 20 points 9 months ago (20 children)

    Tell me again, lemmy, why Kamala is satanspawn and would've been worse for everyone.

    Go on, you stupid fucks. Tell those murder victims in Venezuela, and their families.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago*

    Useful idiots wouldn't be upset if Kamala won because they don't care about the working class.

    Literally nobody is saying Kamala would be worse. We're telling the 'stupid fucks' that 'falling in line' is a losing strategy and they should stop relying on it to combat fascism.

    Instead of getting mad at the people who didn't fall in line because Kamala is an establishment candidate, you should be getting mad at those who nominated her in the first place. But you're too naive to do that, so here we are.

    The two-pronged strategy works because of people like you. I don't expect you to learn, ever.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    It was more about prioritizing personal moral integrity over the practical consequences of their (in)action by not preventing fascist a president that announced he would turn your country into a war zone for non-white people.

    And of course racism: white people don't really care much about non-white people.

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    [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    And with 0 evidence

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Terrorist attacks*

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    This sets a really bad precedent and is just plain wrong and murderous. Like no sane people comes up with this plan and then starts murdering. Absolutely not okay. I thought the UN made a statement that this is illegal? Does that mean, like Bush, it will likely be the case that Trump (and maybe his goons?) won’t be able leave the US if they push that through the international court? I would love this for all of them.

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    [–] 13 points 9 months ago*

    Not recognizing ICC, regime change, illegal killing of foreign civilians, supporting genocidal regimes, invading other countries, carpet bombing nations, incarcerating their own population, killing eachother in mass shootings, biggest per capita contribution to climate change.

    American exceptionalism isn't doing us any good.

    But ooh nooo China, please Europe, fear China... We are your 'allies'.

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    [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Why can't they just intercept the boats and arrest the people on board if they truly have evidence of smuggling? It's cheaper in the short term than wasting expensive missiles, and much cheaper in the long term when you factor in the reparations we're going to have to pay to the families of all the people that were murdered.

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    The U.S is a terrorist state and now it’s a full on dictatorship. They’re not even hiding their illegal kills anymore

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    These boat strikes are becoming like school shootings. You gotta start numbering them. And don't bother with the hurricane or Greek Covid naming either. We're gonna pass the numbers in alphabet in no time.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Almost like a distraction from the epstein files.

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