My distro of choice is Debian (I like their philosophy and it works great on my laptop) but I have an nVidia card in my desktop PC, and driver management was kind of annoying. Decided to try Kubuntu, which worked ok, but I didn't really love, and then I didn't update for a bit too long and had some repo issues trying to install updates. I didn't bother digging into what the fix would be, since I had been considering Bazzite for a while, as it has been talked about a lot for gaming.

Knowing literally nothing other than "Bazzite works out of the box with nVidia" I figured I'd give it a go. First off, I was surprised at the size of the image, and how long the install took. I did some reading about atomic distros and began to understand why things were set up that way. Seems pretty cool! I still don't love that as soon as I logged in on my fresh install, Steam opened up and asked for a log in, but that is what I signed up for with Bazzite, I guess. The nVidia drivers out of the box worked fantastic, as advertised, and I love a good KDE desktop, so it's not all bad.

Initially I was frustrated that some things weren't working in the flatpak versions of the app (couldn't get to my 3d printer using the .local address from the browser because flatpak has a bug with mDNS) and layering a package with rpm-ostree seems like overkill and not a good experience. Then I watched some videos on distrobox.

I can just distrobox create --image debian:latest debian-box and then use apt install for whatever packages I want, export them and use them as if they were natively installed on Bazzite??? And this works on any distro??? I have been using Linux exclusively for a few years (and on and off for more years), but I have been totally out of the loop with distrobox and atomic distros. This feels like the same level of magic I felt when I first dual booted Ubuntu back in the Windows Vista days. This seems like it will fix 99% of the issues I run into on Linux.

I know distrobox isn't exclusive to atomic distros, but I wouldn't have discovered it if not for Bazzite.

Anyway, none of this is really new info, but I just wanted to nerd out about it for a bit with people who will know what I'm talking about.

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[–] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

If you're not primarily a gamer, Bazzite has a sister Kinoite Aurora (or Bluefin if you want Gnome, but you said you like KDE), which is the same underlying OS, but not preconfigured for gaming. I use Bluefin on my laptop and Bazzite on my steam deck, and yeah I love not having to think about it.

Also, have you read about rebasing?

edit: Kinoite and Silverblue are Fedora's default atomic distros. Aurora and Bluefin are the equivalents that are preconfigured out of the box for ease of use and related to Bazzite.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Is there anything aurora/bluefin gives that bazzite does not or is it just that bazzite adds the proton stuff? Reason is I like being game ready but I don't mostly game with my laptop.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Bazzite is more aggressive with kernal updates and comes with a ton of gaming options and packages preconfigured. Bluefin is a designed more for productivity, but you can still game on it. It's just not it's main focus.

    But as long as you stay within the same DE, you can rebase from one to another.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have heard of rebasing but I haven't dug into it. Sounds really cool!

    I do use my PC for gaming, but Bazzite did come with a lot of other "gaming" software that I don't use, so it's good to know there is a lighter weight alternative that otherwise has the same benefits.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I'm no expert, but I think of it as two layers: your layer on top (where you keep things important to you) and the system layer on the bottom (what makes the computer actually run). Most people don't care about that bottom layer, so may as well make it immutable.

    Rebasing is like lifting up your top layer and pivoting it onto a new bottom layer of a similar "os". Updating is the same thing, it just pivots to an updated version of the same os. In either case, if something goes wrong, you reboot and choose the previous version and it pivots your top layer back.

    It's been a while since I installed Bazzite but I remember it having an on boarding where you selected what you needed and it installed it for you. I skipped most of it. And I know Bluefin has a command you can run to install basic gaming programs. So you have options.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I also highly recommend looking into https://www.winboat.app/

    It might be a pain to setup on Bazzite (it's probably better to just use ostree-rpm for the prerequisities), but it's exactly the same kind of magic, but for Windows apps!

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Is that a compatibility layer thing, or a full Windows VM (requiring a Windows license) integrated into the Linux desktop environment? Being able to run the Affinity suite without having to switch to Windows is appealing.

    Edit: There's no GPU access so it's unlikely things like Affinity Photo would run well.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Full KVM in Docker but doesnt require a Windows license.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I still don't love that as soon as I logged in on my fresh install, Steam opened up and asked for a log in, but that is what I signed up for with Bazzite, I guess.

    Yeah, it's a gaming distro and anyone who games will be using Steam, especially on Linux.

    I do wish they would release a non-gaming version.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Bluefin and Aurora are the original distros. Bazzite is a spin of bluefin.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    uBlue is the original or base distro. Aurora, bluefin, and bazzite are spins of uBlue.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Ublue is not a workable system image. It's the general cloud native process to make distributions. There's a bare bones starting point oci image called ublue-os. But that's like saying the hammer is the original chair. It's confusing a tool with the final product.

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  • Sorry for the miscommunication, I was trying to provide clarity around their technical implementation.

    Since they are all image/layer based (like docker or containers), i was expressing that uBlue is the base image, and bazzite, aurora, and bluefin are all layered on top of uBlue, not each other.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Linux noob here, I've been running Mint for about a year and constantly bitching about my Nvidia card's performance vs. Windows. I have the most updated closed source drivers installed, but cooking shaders on games still takes a half hour and many games run like trash even after precompiling said shaders. Space Marine 2 comes to mind, runs like butter on my Win10 partition but is basically unplayable on Linux.

    Am I hearing that I just need to switch to Bazzite and this problem disappears?? Because on God I will do that literally tonight if that's true. I had been holding out for a new batch of Nvidia proprietary drivers to hit the scene or else just resigning myself to having to buy an AMD card.

    I'd expect that Bazzite and Mint would use the same Nvidia proprietary drivers without much noticeable change in performance, but to be honest I don't know jack about shit about their back end behind the scenes processes so I could be wildly off base.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yes

    I got a 3090 card and have her 0 issues so far. Wouldn't even consider another OS for gaming at the moment with how well everything works.

    Even my monitor works better with Bazzite than with Windows 11.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago

    I still had to wait for a long time for shaders to load on initial launch on some games (DA Veilguard) but performance seemed fine. I didn't have performance issues on Ubuntu so not sure about your particular issues, but another thing to consider is based on your card, the latest nvidia drivers may not be correct - I had to download an older driver package for my card (1070) as recommended by nvidia. Bazzite had me select which series of card I had when downloading the ISO, so I assume it included the older drivers for my card. I haven't actually checked the installed driver version though

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    [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I had used Ubuntu in the past, but ran into some wifi driver issues when installing it on my new laptop, fast forward a few years, and I was ready to give Linux another go. I read that Bazzite was pre-optimized for gaming, and I figured everything else I want to do should be relatively easy in comparison.

    I've been impressed by how clean and no nonsense the interface is, and is just a solid daily driver OS. I've been slowly learning the nuances of what it means to be an Atomic Desktop, but I still get confused about the proper way to install things if they can't be found in the flatpak discovery tool. Pretty sure I have two versions of Chrome installed right now. That's not a problem with Bazzite though, just a new-to-linux problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I've also been using bazzite with an nvidia card since the windows 10 death, my only callout would be VR is utterly broken for me. This isn't a Bazzite problem, its due to nvidia drivers and impacts all Linux when using a wired headset (wireless is fine). I'm currently looking for a second cheap nvme to install windows to for just VR. If you have an AMD card everything works great. I've spent hours tinkering, switching to Monado and Xrizer from steamvr while tinkering with environment variables. Best I can do is get HL playable on 90hz with my index and a 3090. On windows I was doing 120hz pretty easily. Heres to hoping AMD really steps up next gen because I don't want to support nvidia.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    That sounds really frustrating. When my 1070 croaks I'm going with an AMD. Probably not going to upgrade before then since I mostly play older games and GPUs are just too expensive these days. First it was crypto mining, now it's AI... I just want to play my single player RPGs!

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I am currently on Kubuntu but thinking of switching to Bazzite on my PC, which does have an Nvidia card.

    How much of a pain is it to switch distros while redoing setups the least amount possible?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago

    It's going to be a total re-install, so that depends on what kind of setups you have. Not really different than switching to/from another distro.

    Bazzite ships with KDE, so you could likely copy your themes and customizations for that pretty easily.

    Bazzite is fedora based, and doesn't use apt, but you can use distrobox like I mentioned in my post to get familiar ubuntu packages, if there are things that you need to be not flatpaks. You also can probably copy config files from non-flatpak apps into the flatpaks for most apps. I did this with my Cura configs. It may depend on the application.

    Basically, I just backed up my user folder (~/) and pulled any configs out of there. You could just back up ~/.config and ~/.local but with ubuntu there are likely some things in a snap directory and such. Mainly ~/.config and ~/.local, but some applications may use other directories, like snap, etc.

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