I would go with Fairphone in a heartbeat

That's kind of my point. I get that making phones is complicated, but it'd be nice to have better hardware options, too.

You mean Taiwanese, right?

Chinese components, American components. All made in Taiwan!

I mean does it really matter if they offer all the hardware security features and it's running with GrapheneOS, which is FOSS

There's nothing inherently less secure about a device just because it's Chinese lol

yeah, just make sure you've got a heat gun, a suction cup, a pry tool, and three different kinds of screwdrivers.

my baseline is a 7 year old model with 8 GB RAM and SDM845 that I can get intermittently for $50. for that kinda money I get a LineageOS fully supported device that's blazing fast, safe and secure against any reasonable threat; I have zero concerns a lost or stolen device will compromise me. as a bonus, it just so happens it's one of the best supported devices for Mobian and postmarketOS. so, that's the baseline.

GrapheneOS value proposition is gonna be spend 10x that (at least!) for a marginally secure-er solution. that's a shite deal.

now if they partnered with LineageOS and other "let's revive old shit left behind" that would be a different story. imagine if Linux was available only on latest gen CPUs, would all of us be into it? I know I wouldn't be.