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[–] 44 points 10 months ago (1 child)

So Israel is pulling its people out of occupied territory, providing restitution for war crimes and trying and punishing war criminals then right? Right?!

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Only the first of these are part of the agreement.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Arguably there are still Israelis occupying Palestinian territory, roving Israeli gangs just murdered a journalist in Gaza, let alone the wider palestine

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Those were Palestinians living in Gaza, Doghmush clan. This might be news to you but not all Palestinians in Gaza are happy with the way Hamas governs the area.

    Now that Hamas has the ability again, they focus on oppressing Palestinians.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Agree. It’s way too early for celebration

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  • [+] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
    [–] 22 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    War is done is more accurate. Goals achieved. Ready to build the next Dubai and make some rich people even richer.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    We're talking about a ceasefire here, not peace. Trump is being dumb as usual.

    I'd love for the ceasefire to actually succeed this time - hopefully perpetually, leading to actual peace.

    But that wouldn't mean Palestine's plight is over - that would only be the beginning for seriously working on a two state solution. And not a master and a vassal state either.

    Looking back almost a century, somehow I'm not too optimistic.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Just one more statement of his that will soon be proven wrong.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This has been going on for many decades, it's not over.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    In the same way the war was over in Western Europe when the Nazis occupied countries.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago
    [+] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    At least some of the hostages are still alive to be released.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    1200 are not alive, they were massacred in a genocidal act by Hamas.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Not what genocide is and doesn't account for how many Israel killed themselves to prevent being captured

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The reason your movement doesn't get credibility is because you can't recognize that massacring people because of their ethnicity (what Hamas did) is genocide. If you're claiming that Hamas didn't commit genocide while also claiming Israel has, that requires some serious mental gymnastics to reconcile. But you're not even trying to reconcile the discrepancy in how you consider the the actions of Hamas vs. how you consider the actions of Israel. You feel like if you just shout loud enough, engage in harassment campaigns to intimidate people from discussing the topic, you can control the narrative.

    And you can control the narrative in small corners of the internet like this. But then what? You support a violent movement that tortures people to silence dissent. Do you ever ask "are we the baddies?" or do you continue down the dark path without questioning anything?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 10 months ago

    The war in Gaza has ended and the Middle East is going to “normalize”, Donald Trump said on Sunday as he flew to Israel which was waiting for Hamas to release Israeli hostages as world leaders were gathering to discuss the next steps toward peace.

    “The war is over, you understand that,” Trump told reporters onboard Air Force One as he began a flight from Washington DC to Israel.

    Asked about prospects for the region, Trump said: “I think it’s going to normalize.“

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Anything with "trump says" is garbage headlining

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    This is just going to be another Korea. They still hate each other and the fighting will pick up again. History will repeat itself, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I'll believe it when I see it. I have no faith in Israel though.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    War is over

    So said the speaker!

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Howany hostages has Israel released?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    Isn't Israel a compulsory-service country where all citizens spend a year training as a soldier? Its funny that they're called hostages when captured, not prisoners. Hostages are when you kidnap non-combatants like poor people living without secure food or water ... so exactly the opposite of what they're labeling captives by the invader or the impoverished civilian defenders.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 10 months ago*

    The youngest Israeli hostage taken on 7th of October was less than a year old, I don’t think he already finished his compulsory military service.

    Israel is doing despicable things, but let’s not pretend that Hamas is innocent.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I'll add that from what I've seen, about half of the Israelis get an exemption for various reasons.
    (Physical or mental issues, religion - Muslims are exempted by default and almost all ultra-orthodox Jews, pacifists, etc)

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Far from over! The brothers, Isaac and Ishmael, regrouping to continue their family blood feud over dried rocks.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago

    Seems a lot of people here don't want the war to be over.

    Ya know you could get together with your activist friends and be happy? You don't actually need to meet each over a shared hatred of people.

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